Speed 6 ??

[SunnyD]

Re: Speed 6 ??

intresting thread ive started here well i wont be using speed 6 but i think im still going to use the cutting pad on my g110 but only if i really need to go that far to remove the damage and also cause i paid $20 for it and dont have a rotory to use it with lol

[SVT Lightning]

Re: Speed 6 ??

Speed 6 works great for spin drying your pads after washing them!

[wifpd4]

Re: Speed 6 ??

Speed 6 works great for spin drying your pads after washing them!

and turning pads into frisbees, although accuracy is a problem

[Markus Kleis]

Re: Speed 6 ??

I don't drink and drive. Drinking and driving can create a load of problems. When I use speed 6, I am removing more severe defects. I even use a 4'' light cutting pad for maximum pressure per square inch, as well as maximum Oscillation/rotation.

Your drinking and driving analogy is irrelevant, because when I use speed 6, I am actually accomplishing defect removal. What do you accomplish when drinking and driving?

I don't use the microfiber pad system, and am not planning to in the near future, so no problem there. There is no mention of "polish" in this thread, so, unless you're referring to a specific polish, (cleaner or compound in Meguiars terminology) you're just theorizing, which is ok, you can disagree with someone, which again is ok, but do it tactfully, please.

I've been doing this for over 20 years, yet you insinuate that my skill level is on par with "drinking and driving"?




Have a nice day.

For starters, Jim, I never said nor implied you drink and drive. I made an example that was clearly done with a bit of humor but intentionally extreme to make a point. There was nothing wrong with my FACTUAL explanation of what speeds to use, nor anything else I wrote.

Conversely, your response is a borderline personal attack (which we do not allow here on MOL), and also continues to push a technique that is simply not recommended by Meguiar's. No one is attacking you (especially myself), so there is no need to have such a sharp-tongued response.

You charged me with theorizing, but my advice is based on the teachings of Meguiar's, found on products labels and in classrooms. Your advice is based on what is a comparatively (your personal experience vs that of all Meguiar's testing and development) limited experience. The bottom line is the original poster clearly is quite new to the art of automotive detailing, so we much rather prefer sticking to proven methods over personal techniques.

I am not equivocally saying speed 6 will not work, nor am I saying you are "wrong," but for the purpose of the information being sought by the OP, it is best to stick to speed 5, use a different product than #4 (Yes, no "polish" was mentioned, but likewise no product that would work with a DA was either, so obviously something else is necessary) and a pad that is approved for DA use.

By all means feel free to share your experiences and continue to use the products as you find them best for yourself, but when new users are in need of guidance we would prefer to stick to sound, proven, basic methods before moving into advanced technique.

Also, FWIW, speed 6 can cause premature pad failure - even on non-microfiber pads.

[SVT Lightning]

Re: Speed 6 ??

Mark!

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Speed 6 ??

You should think of Speed 6 as a reserve setting. Prolonged use of speed 6, especially with a lot of pressure or with a cutting pad, will generate a lot of heat where the pad meets the backing plate. This heat can and will break down the adhesive holding the hook & loop to the foam pad, and sometimes even the foam itself if used long enough and with enough pressure. Remember, on a random orbital tool like the DA the pad is always changing direction, so the tool is basically trying to throw the pad off. This violent action on the hook & look can and does create a lot of heat, which is why we don't recommend it. We've seen plenty of cases of pad failure - and not just our pads, but our competitors as well - when used this way.

But there are times when the extra oomph of speed 6 can come in handy. Those occasional bird drop etchings that are just really tough to get out, especially on harder paints. Heck, sometimes even a brief run with a foam cutting pad can help here too. We don't recommend speed 6, nor do we recommend our cutting pad with the DA. But that doesn't mean "you can never use" either.

Don't let them become a crutch in lieu of proper technique. That's just getting downright sloppy. It's amazing what you can accomplish with proper technique on a DA - whether that's when working on harder paints, correcting severe defects, or just keeping the pad rotating while buffing on curved body panels. Technique is king; falling back on more aggressive methods to accomplish the task is just bad form. If that's how you tackle everything, what do you do in those tough cases when you're already maxed out?