Prep a new dual action polisher pad?

[rrroberts!]

What product is best for prepping a new dual action polisher pad?

[greg0303]

Re: Prep a new dual action polisher pad?

You rather do it with rotary buffers by spraying a pad with M34 Final Inspection.

With dual action polishers you could prime dry pad with product to get 100% area usage of your pad and increase correction/ product effectiveness. Before turning your machine on apply product to the pad and evenly spread it. Don't overdo it because you're gonna clog buffing pads' cells fully.

If you prime your pads first then less product is needed when re-applying, like 3-4 dots.

[OldSchoolDude]

Re: Prep a new dual action polisher pad?

Prime it with a quick spray of UD or what i use, UQD.
All you need to start, during your paint correction you might want to spray it every panel to keep the dust down.
Remember, a little goes a long way, don't want to clog the pad up.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Prep a new dual action polisher pad?

You don't really need to "prep" a new pad when used on a DA buffer. You may want to spin it freely on the tool and hit it with a pad cleaning brush to knock out any loose material that may remain from the manufacturing process so as to avoid it kicking out early on in your buffing process, but that's about it.

As for priming the pad prior to use, as Greg mentions that tends to be more of a rotary buffing thing than DA. Normally when people talk about priming a pad for DA use they're thinking out the "Kevin Brown Method (aka KBM)" wherein you fully cover the surface of the pad with M105 or M205 and then clean off any excess, then just use a few small drops of product for the actually buffing.

If you feel you really need to spritz a little something onto the pad first, we'd suggest M34 Final Inspection. It offers good lubricity without adding anything that could slow down the cutting action of the compound or paint cleaner. Ultimate Quik Detailer (sorry OldSchoolDude) contains enough durable polymers that it could reduce or slow down the cutting ability of these products.

[maxpower]

Re: Prep a new dual action polisher pad?

You don't really need to "prep" a new pad when used on a DA buffer. You may want to spin it freely on the tool and hit it with a pad cleaning brush to knock out any loose material that may remain from the manufacturing process so as to avoid it kicking out early on in your buffing process, but that's about it.

As for priming the pad prior to use, as Greg mentions that tends to be more of a rotary buffing thing than DA. Normally when people talk about priming a pad for DA use they're thinking out the "Kevin Brown Method (aka KBM)" wherein you fully cover the surface of the pad with M105 or M205 and then clean off any excess, then just use a few small drops of product for the actually buffing.

If you feel you really need to spritz a little something onto the pad first, we'd suggest M34 Final Inspection. It offers good lubricity without adding anything that could slow down the cutting action of the compound or paint cleaner. Ultimate Quik Detailer (sorry OldSchoolDude) contains enough durable polymers that it could reduce or slow down the cutting ability of these products.

Michael,

I plan on using the Megs MF correction system this weekend - In the video it was shown to heavily prime the cutting pad before you start so my question is after that first panel how much 300 should be added to the pad for the next 2X2 panel?

thanks

[JoeDirt]

Re: Prep a new dual action polisher pad?

Anything beyond 2 small pea-sized drops of product will clog up the pad. You'll be amazed at how little product you will use on the MFDA system. Make sure to clean the pad after each panel to fluff the fibers back up.

This is just about too much product, this was early on in my process- I was using at most the same size drops as the one on the left, one on each side.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Prep a new dual action polisher pad?

Michael,

I plan on using the Megs MF correction system this weekend - In the video it was shown to heavily prime the cutting pad before you start so my question is after that first panel how much 300 should be added to the pad for the next 2X2 panel?

thanks

The microfiber discs present a different situation. Whereas a foam pad doesn't really need to be primed for use on a DA, the microfiber cutting disc absolutely must be primed first, but in this case we are specifically defining "priming" as fully covering the microfiber surface with the product used to remove defects. This is very different from a quick spritz of M34 prior to putting pad to paint.

But you don't really want to "heavily prime" the pad, just get the surface fully covered in D300, but using the least amount of product necessary to do this. In fact, after getting the dics loaded up with D300, we recommend either blowing out the excess with compressed air or brushing it out with a pad brush. The surface of the disc should now be a nice, uniform light pink in color with no excess product on its surface. Now add between 2 and 4 pea sized drops of product for each successive 2' x 2' area, blowing or brushing clean between each pass (not between each panel, but between each 2' x 2' section - that's very important). Whether you need 2, 3 or 4 pea sized drops of product will ultimately come down to what the paint wants, and how effectively you're cleaning out the excess product after each section.

JoeDirt has shown a perfect of "pea sized drops". We've seen people really struggle with using such a small amount of product and their "pea sized drops" grow into the size of quarter. Or else these guys are eating some mighty large peas!!

[maxpower]

Re: Prep a new dual action polisher pad?

exactly the information I was looking for....thanks Mike and JD

[JoeDirt]

Re: Prep a new dual action polisher pad?

No prob-

I really did have a hard time grasping how little of the D300 I had to use. I saturated the first pad after just a door and a fender (was using about twice the product). Then I started using the pea-sized and used the second pad for the rest of the truck and it looked pretty much like that pic after the whole truck was done. It's amazing how little is used...

[OldSchoolDude]

Re: Prep a new dual action polisher pad?

You don't really need to "prep" a new pad when used on a DA buffer. You may want to spin it freely on the tool and hit it with a pad cleaning brush to knock out any loose material that may remain from the manufacturing process so as to avoid it kicking out early on in your buffing process, but that's about it.

As for priming the pad prior to use, as Greg mentions that tends to be more of a rotary buffing thing than DA. Normally when people talk about priming a pad for DA use they're thinking out the "Kevin Brown Method (aka KBM)" wherein you fully cover the surface of the pad with M105 or M205 and then clean off any excess, then just use a few small drops of product for the actually buffing.

If you feel you really need to spritz a little something onto the pad first, we'd suggest M34 Final Inspection. It offers good lubricity without adding anything that could slow down the cutting action of the compound or paint cleaner. Ultimate Quik Detailer (sorry OldSchoolDude) contains enough durable polymers that it could reduce or slow down the cutting ability of these products.

NP Michael, just something I've always did, yes it does reduce the cutting some but I just hate putting a dry pad on the finish.
I hit it with a very quick spray.