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    Ultimate Compound, Single Stage Paint, & Hazing

    I have a White 2005 Toyota Sienna I am trying to clean up. Paint is slightly oxidized and I am using Ultimate Compound to clean it up. I first washed it and then clay'd it. Whenever I do even a small 12"x12" area, and then try to wipe it off, it leaves a nasty haze behind. The only way I have found to remove it is by using 50/50 mixture of water and alcohol, which tend to dull the paint.

    Is there anything I can do to keep it from hazing? It acts as if it dries 10 seconds after I put it on. I am doing it early morning in the shade and tried tonight after the sun dropped, also in the shade.

    I tried the Ultimate polish as well and it also left a haze. I never had to clean a car with single stage paint before and I am finding it difficult. I am also doing it by hand, not a buffer.

    I would greatly appreciate the advice of those here.
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    Re: Ultimate Compound, Single Stage Paint, & Hazing

    What are you using to apply the product with? Foam pad or something else? How and how long are you working the product on the panel? Lots of pressure, light pressure? Working for seconds or minutes?

    If you can upload a pic that will help too.

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    • #3
      Re: Ultimate Compound, Single Stage Paint, & Hazing

      By hazing, do you mean that the paint was dulled or swirled, etc.? Pics may help.

      The paint may be very dry and sucking the moisture from Ultimate Compound before you have had time to work it in.

      I would buy some M07 Show Car Glaze and apply it via a finishing pad to see of that helps moisturize the paint. Also, you could try some M83 Dual Action Cleaner/Polish and M80 Speed Glaze as they were specifically designed for use on single stage paint.

      These are just some tips or thoughts. Pics will really help though.
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      • #4
        Re: Ultimate Compound, Single Stage Paint, & Hazing

        I tried using both a terry cloth pad and a microfiber pad. I am using moderate pressure. I am not pushing the pad tight against the car. The areas I tested on prior to today turned out fabulous once I applied polish and then the wax. I usually go over the area once, then a second time and then wipe it off...or try anyways.

        The paint sucking it dry seems to me like what it is doing. I thought I was nuts thinking this. I will try to get some pics up tomorrow when I give it another go. I noticed later tonight when I tried to apply the compound with a damp pad it worked a bit better for me. Is this ok to do?

        I appreciate the feedback/help. Thanks.

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        • #5
          Re: Ultimate Compound, Single Stage Paint, & Hazing

          Sounds like your paint is very dry. When that happens it's almost like you have a magic compound. It disappears right before your eyes...

          I'd recommend trying M80 as the next step here. It's got a healthy dose of oils that will really help you, plus it works well with hand application.

          Check your work on a small test area, say 12"x12" so you know how it's progressing. You will most likely just feed the paint with oils with this step, with minor corrective benefits.

          After you've added some oils to the paint, then try the Ultimate Compound again and see how you go.

          White single stage paint can be a notoriously difficult working environment at the best of times. Working by hand won't be easy, but you should get an improvement.

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          • #6
            Re: Ultimate Compound, Single Stage Paint, & Hazing

            I was baffled by the paint at first. Then I did some research here and found it was single stage paint. All new to me. Now I figure that is why the paint, even when washed well is still "dungy" looking. Good news is I know it can be cleaned up with the right materials.

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            • #7
              Re: Ultimate Compound, Single Stage Paint, & Hazing

              Hit the pad often with QD, this will give you a little more time to work the product.
              Maybe hit it before you start another 16x16 area, maybe your trying to work to big of an area.
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              My part time job is to maintain my black Toyota!

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              • #8
                Re: Ultimate Compound, Single Stage Paint, & Hazing

                I finished the van. I washed it, clayed it, Ultimate Compound, Ultimate Polish, Ultimate Wax, a 2nd app of Ultimate Wax and Ultimate Quik Detailer.

                I kept the pads moist for the UC application. It helped tremendously. I was mainly using this prodcut to remove the ugly brown stain that seemed to be embedded into the paint. I was cursing Toyota the entire time. I have to say that I would not want another Toyota if it had single stage paint. The overall look turned out ok. If you look real close you can still see a haze in the paint. Its aggrevating after all that work. I did notice that an application of NXT Quick Wax seemed to clean up the haze.

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                • #9
                  Re: Ultimate Compound, Single Stage Paint, & Hazing

                  The more oils the paint gets, the better I am sure it will get.
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