How To Refine A Dark Colour When 100% Is Not Good Enough

[rapport25]

Hi Guys,

This is a bit of a double post.

(1) I detailed my Black Pearl a few weeks ago and was curious If I can inhance its appearance further still? I have not tried the Ultimate Polish and I was curious if this would make a massive diffrerence? Car is flawless as is. Or should I just move on to another car?

(2) A friend of mine has a black pearl Golf. He has now seen the light and has purchased a d/a and Meguiars products. I gave him a bit of a demo on the hood. And Ultimate Compound is the only way to get the swirls and scratches out.

I popped around last night to see how he was getting on. 50% complete. Only problem is that due to VW paint being very hard there is a lot of murring on the paint when you catch it in the sun. I have told him to refine the finish with Swirl X on a black pad.

All that he has is Ultimate Compound and 5 bottles of it. Megs yellow and black pads. Could he remove the marring with U/C using less pressure? Or using a black megs pad? He is a bit short of cash and cant afford to buy anymore products. He has Megs DC01 Would this help?

Many thanks in advance,

Rappy

[rapport25]

Re: How To Refine A Dark Colour When 100% Is Not Good Enough

Sorry guys typo error marring not murring

[dc2_]

Re: How To Refine A Dark Colour When 100% Is Not Good Enough

i guess your buddy can try UC on a black bad with less pressure,slower speed

but if that dont work you should lend him some polish

and for your case how did u detail yours?
did u use some kind of polish after correcting the paint?
u can try meguiars #7 or ultimate polish u might see some improvement

[dc2_]

Re: How To Refine A Dark Colour When 100% Is Not Good Enough

he can use swirlx to remove the marring
or ultimate polish,or m205

theres a few out there that can get the job done

[rapport25]

Re: How To Refine A Dark Colour When 100% Is Not Good Enough

i guess your buddy can try UC on a black bad with less pressure,slower speed

but if that dont work you should lend him some polish

and for your case how did u detail yours?
did u use some kind of polish after correcting the paint?
u can try meguiars #7 or ultimate polish u might see some improvement

I have plenty of swirl X but he asked if U/C would get the results he requires. He has 5 bottles!!!

I have used swirl x on mine to remove the micro marring with a black pad. Could this be used on a yellow pad instead? Any better results etc?

With ref to my car. Mine has had various megs products. U/C, SWIRL X/ DC02/ Nxt 2.0 sealant/ Gold class Plus/ UQW/UQD.

I think I'm a bit ODD with my car

[Markus Kleis]

Re: How To Refine A Dark Colour When 100% Is Not Good Enough

Hi Guys,

This is a bit of a double post.

(1) I detailed my Black Pearl a few weeks ago and was curious If I can inhance its appearance further still? I have not tried the Ultimate Polish and I was curious if this would make a massive diffrerence? Car is flawless as is. Or should I just move on to another car?

(2) A friend of mine has a black pearl Golf. He has now seen the light and has purchased a d/a and Meguiars products. I gave him a bit of a demo on the hood. And Ultimate Compound is the only way to get the swirls and scratches out.

I popped around last night to see how he was getting on. 50% complete. Only problem is that due to VW paint being very hard there is a lot of murring on the paint when you catch it in the sun. I have told him to refine the finish with Swirl X on a black pad.

All that he has is Ultimate Compound and 5 bottles of it. Megs yellow and black pads. Could he remove the marring with U/C using less pressure? Or using a black megs pad? He is a bit short of cash and cant afford to buy anymore products. He has Megs DC01 Would this help?

Many thanks in advance,

Rappy

It's quite literally impossible to give a definitive answer as to what will happen because every car is unique, but it is possible a finishing pad and less pressure while still using Ultimate Compound will do the trick.

Any chance he could return one of the bottles and get Ultimate Polish or SwirlX?

[rapport25]

Re: How To Refine A Dark Colour When 100% Is Not Good Enough

It's quite literally impossible to give a definitive answer as to what will happen because every car is unique, but it is possible a finishing pad and less pressure while still using Ultimate Compound will do the trick.

Any chance he could return one of the bottles and get Ultimate Polish or SwirlX?

Hi Mark,

Thanks for your reply. I agree every cars is different. My VW seemed slightly softer than the golf.

I buy a lot of Meguirs products on line due to local stockist only carrying the very basics. Detailing sprays/clay bar kits etc... They have only recently started selling U/C and it was on offer on all cleaning products 3 for 2. Hence his larger purchase of U/C.

What speed do you suggest with the black pad?

Any hints and tips with mine?

Thanks,

Rappy

[rapport25]

Re: How To Refine A Dark Colour When 100% Is Not Good Enough

Bump, guys please help?

[Michael Stoops]

Re: How To Refine A Dark Colour When 100% Is Not Good Enough

If UC is causing some marring with a yellow pad at speed 5 then you may be able to correct that with a less aggressive approach. But "may" is the key here and it will likely take some experimentation. Try a clean yellow pad running at speed 3 and just light to moderate pressure, and work it until it's just a very thin film. But just do one small test spot like this. Next to that, try a test spot the same way but with a black finishing pad, and compare the results.

SwirlX or Ultimate Polish would really be the better way to go though, as either one on a black finishing pad at speed 3 and moderate pressure would almost certainly correct the marring from UC.

Of course, you could always just be a good mate and loan him some of your pads/liquids and just have him buy you a pint at the end of the day!

[Andrew Wilson]

Re: How To Refine A Dark Colour When 100% Is Not Good Enough

Try using UC at speed 2 on the G110v2 with our W9207 and see what kind of results you are getting. You can always increase the speed, but you should see difference in performance. If you are still having problems with marring in the paint, we would recommend switching over to using UC by hand for the final pass, just because the clear coat is soft and sensitive.

As for more pop in your paint, Ultimate Polish definitely increases the gloss and shine in one step. For the most reflective and wet look finish, use a polishing wax such as Ultimate Liquid Wax or NXT 2.0.

[rapport25]

Re: How To Refine A Dark Colour When 100% Is Not Good Enough

If UC is causing some marring with a yellow pad at speed 5 then you may be able to correct that with a less aggressive approach. But "may" is the key here and it will likely take some experimentation. Try a clean yellow pad running at speed 3 and just light to moderate pressure, and work it until it's just a very thin film. But just do one small test spot like this. Next to that, try a test spot the same way but with a black finishing pad, and compare the results.

SwirlX or Ultimate Polish would really be the better way to go though, as either one on a black finishing pad at speed 3 and moderate pressure would almost certainly correct the marring from UC.

Of course, you could always just be a good mate and loan him some of your pads/liquids and just have him buy you a pint at the end of the day!

Thanks Michael. I remember when I detailed mine you had suggested using a black pad with swirl x and that worked great.

I think swirl x is the way to go. As mine looks flawless. Guess what I will be doing at the w end? 2 D/A's are quicker than 1 . I will be polishing he will be cutting.

Speaking of mine. Will I get any benefit from using ultimate polish instead of swirl X? Also will I get any benefit from using Ultimate Wax instead of NXT 2.0 sealant. I will still top it with Gold Class Plus.

Rappy.

[rapport25]

Re: How To Refine A Dark Colour When 100% Is Not Good Enough

Try using UC at speed 2 on the G110v2 with our W9207 and see what kind of results you are getting. You can always increase the speed, but you should see difference in performance. If you are still having problems with marring in the paint, we would recommend switching over to using UC by hand for the final pass, just because the clear coat is soft and sensitive.

As for more pop in your paint, Ultimate Polish definitely increases the gloss and shine in one step. For the most reflective and wet look finish, use a polishing wax such as Ultimate Liquid Wax or NXT 2.0.

Hi Andrew, thanks for your reply. Just noticed a second reply from one of the Meguiars team

I think I will be helping him out this w end as its his first detail with a d/a. As said in reply to Michael's he will be cutting I will be polishing..

As for my black beauty. I'm sold. Both the polish and the wax are on order. These product only landed in the UK Friday. Not that I'm car crazy .

What speed should I be running Ultimate polish Start at 4 with moderate pressure then reduce down to speed 3?

Rappy.