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    Haze after spot paint repair

    I had my new black vehicle for 3 weeks when I scraped the side of the front bumper on a curb. I took it to a body shop and asked them if they could do a spot repair as I did not want to have the bumper removed and repainted/clear coated on such a new car. They agreed and did an OK job - only charged $120 - but there are spots where the new clear coat meets the original that are dull or "hazy" - especially in certain light.

    I tried Meguiar's Polish to try and remove the dull/haze parts with no results. I also tried a rubbing compound - again with no results.

    I am wondering what caused this haze/dullness and if I can remove the haze areas using any products available on my own or if I need to have the bumper removed and re-cleared.

    My next step will be using Meguiar's Clay bar but I am not very optimistic...

    Any suggestions on the cause - and products that might work - would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks for any advice!
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    Re: Haze after spot paint repair

    Can you get a pic with the light on it maybe, to show it some?
    2017 Subaru WRX Premium - WR Blue

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    • #3
      Re: Haze after spot paint repair

      It sounds like they just did a really poor job of blending the edges of their spot repair. It is doubtful that anything you try by hand will correct the problem to your satisfaction, especially on a new black car.

      Probably the best option to correct this at home would be to wet sand and rotary buff the area. But unless you have experience doing this, the proper tools, etc, don't even consider it.
      Michael Stoops
      Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

      Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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      • #4
        Re: Haze after spot paint repair

        to the OP.. I hope you read this before you do any wetsanding... I had this same issue on my car. the shop that did the blending did a poor job and you could see the roughness/haze(looked something like overpsray). very apparent in the sunlight but not so much in dim light as my car is black.. what worked PERFECTLY, is ulitmate compound.. A few passes and VOILA. Hope it works for you.

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        • #5
          Re: Haze after spot paint repair

          Thank you for the quick and helpful responses!

          What is ultimate compound? It's worth a shot.

          btw - I just took it to a reputable body shop and they advised that the only way they could guarantee any results would be if they removed and re-cleared the bumper. Cost = $400.

          I would definitely not do sanding myself - but have nothing to lose by trying other products or methods right now.

          If nothing works then it's off to the body shop (plus rental car cost for at least 2 days)

          Thanks again - all advice is appeciated.

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          • #6
            Re: Haze after spot paint repair

            if it worked for me, i can't imagine it not working for you.. ultimate compound is one of the higher abrasives available by meguairs.. it is very user friendly.. just make sure you rub (if used by hand) with some elbow grease and a few passes may be needed to achieve maximum results. you can follow up with some polish if there is some haze left but i have never experienced this. just make sure you dont rub TOo long to the point where the UC dries completely. good luck... 400 is basically a cost a a full repaint... and on top of that ,,, the 120 you spent means 520.. .. if the UC does not work, i am sure you would get pretty good results from wetsanding alone.

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            • #7
              Re: Haze after spot paint repair

              Originally posted by Rogan01 View Post
              btw - I just took it to a reputable body shop and they advised that the only way they could guarantee any results would be if they removed and re-cleared the bumper. Cost = $400.
              With this being a new car, having the repair done right is probably the most prudent thing to do. Especially if you're at all concerned about the overall appearance of the vehicle, long term or not.

              $400 to remove the bumper cover, strip it and respray it isn't a bad price at all.

              Originally posted by Spidey View Post
              if it worked for me, i can't imagine it not working for you.. ultimate compound is one of the higher abrasives available by meguairs.. it is very user friendly.. just make sure you rub (if used by hand) with some elbow grease and a few passes may be needed to achieve maximum results. you can follow up with some polish if there is some haze left but i have never experienced this. just make sure you dont rub TOo long to the point where the UC dries completely. good luck... 400 is basically a cost a a full repaint... and on top of that ,,, the 120 you spent means 520.. .. if the UC does not work, i am sure you would get pretty good results from wetsanding alone.
              Unless the OP has the exact same issue you had, there is no guarantee that UC will return the same results. Obviously if it does then that's fantastic, but we've seen so many lousy paint jobs in the past year - geez, you'd be amazed. Seriously. UC would do absolutely nothing for them. Some were so bad that even wet sanding and rotary buffing only improved them somewhat. But "wetsanding alone"? Never. Rotary buffing after wetsanding would be a requirement.
              Michael Stoops
              Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

              Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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              • #8
                Re: Haze after spot paint repair

                Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
                With this being a new car, having the repair done right is probably the most prudent thing to do. Especially if you're at all concerned about the overall appearance of the vehicle, long term or not.

                $400 to remove the bumper cover, strip it and respray it isn't a bad price at all.



                Unless the OP has the exact same issue you had, there is no guarantee that UC will return the same results. Obviously if it does then that's fantastic, but we've seen so many lousy paint jobs in the past year - geez, you'd be amazed. Seriously. UC would do absolutely nothing for them. Some were so bad that even wet sanding and rotary buffing only improved them somewhat. But "wetsanding alone"? Never. Rotary buffing after wetsanding would be a requirement.
                what i meant was wetsanding/flattening, then polish/buff

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                • #9
                  Re: Haze after spot paint repair

                  Thank you Michael - I know you are absolutely right about the best solution. I will try the clay bar and then UC tomorrow - I have nothing to lose. Would I find the UC at an auto parts chain?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Haze after spot paint repair

                    Originally posted by Rogan01 View Post
                    Thank you Michael - I know you are absolutely right about the best solution. I will try the clay bar and then UC tomorrow - I have nothing to lose. Would I find the UC at an auto parts chain?

                    anywhere that sells meguairs will have it

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                    • #11
                      Re: Haze after spot paint repair

                      Man that stinks! Any chance of contacting the body shop owner/manager to complain about this lousy job? Your predicament highlights the importance of getting a repair, any repair, done by someone who knows what they're doing and will stand behind their work. We've all been victims at one time or another of shoddy work done by incompetents. How to avoid that is a real headache for everyone.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Haze after spot paint repair

                        Hi spidey. All the years of me doing this I have never really seen too many people blend out a black blend line properly . Black is not always black, different companies have different shades of black. The only way they will get rid or close to it is if they polish it with a yellow #2 pad and some glaze, and very slowly trying not to disturb the line. Only a pro can do this though as the pad needs to rotate in the direction of the blend. If you go opposite you will just be bring that line back. Hope that helped.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Haze after spot paint repair

                          Hi Joe, this is not entirely the body shop owners fault. Just as anything in life, if we try to take a short cut we risk the job not turning out well. He wanted it spot repaired to save him money and maybe the owner failed to tell him that blacks do not blend well. But it's the cost he paid for trying to take a short cut. I have seen this way too many times.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Haze after spot paint repair

                            Originally posted by jstuni View Post
                            Hi spidey. All the years of me doing this I have never really seen too many people blend out a black blend line properly . Black is not always black, different companies have different shades of black. The only way they will get rid or close to it is if they polish it with a yellow #2 pad and some glaze, and very slowly trying not to disturb the line. Only a pro can do this though as the pad needs to rotate in the direction of the blend. If you go opposite you will just be bring that line back. Hope that helped.

                            in my case, the body shop should have just completed painted the rest of the pillar... since there was only another 1.5 feet left...

                            i realize there are diff shades... metallics, pearls etc... the OP's problem isnt how the colour is blending.. but the clear...

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                            • #15
                              Re: Haze after spot paint repair

                              The body shop that I go to will not blend clear coats for this very reason. They will blend a repair and basecoat but clear the whole panel.

                              Tom

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