leather seats

[waxman1]

i use meguiars # 40,to clean leather seats,and i didnt know if i should use your leather conditioner after doing this. could you help me with this. thanks

[Tuck91]

Re: leather seats

You dont want to use #40 on leather seats.

Pre clean the surface with some APC or leather cleaner then apply the conditioner.

[Murr1525]

Re: leather seats

Yeah, dont really want a vinyl product on leather.

[Ravi_1992]

Re: leather seats

Just Clean it with APC 10:1 if dirty , and Condition with
Gold Class Rich Leather Cleaner/Conditioner

[Blueline]

Re: leather seats

Yeah, dont really want a vinyl product on leather.

If it is "finished" leather, as is used in 99.9% of automobiles, it HAS a coating of vinyl on it. So, a vinyl product would be quite appropriate, and probably better than a leather product. Leather products (cleaners and conditioners) really are only useful on "unfinished" leather as is used in some very, very high end European cars, horse saddles, and leather wear.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: leather seats

While it is true that most all automotive leather seating has a clear coating on it, that does not mean that all you need is a basic vinyl dressing on them. These coatings are developed at great expense to look, feel and move like leather - what would be the point in having leather at all if you just covered it in a plastic wrap, essentially? These coatings are also porous or permeable so that the leather below it can breath and not dry out. A quality leather conditioner is still preferable for routine use on these surfaces.

The primary reason for the coatings in the first place is to protect the leather from discoloration. Think about a baseball glove, which is made from uncoated leather. When you apply a conditioner or oil to it to soften it up, those products turn the leather darker. This same thing would happen to automotive leather if it were left uncoated, even if you applied a vinyl dressing to it. And you can imagine the warranty claims from such darkening, especially if the product was not applied completely uniform.

This is also why we say that our leather conditioners are safe to use on non-automotive leather (furniture, handbags, shoes, coats, etc) but to test them in an inconspicuous area first. These non-automotive leathers often have no coating on them and this darkening can often occur.

[Blueline]

Re: leather seats

I am no expert on auto leather, however much that I have read, would disagree with some of your statements. . However, I do own several saddles, and other leather tack, which is unfinished...they do not have a clear or colored vinyl coating. A good leather cleaner and conditioner, which I use, does not discolor the leather. This I do know from experience.
Anyway, nothing wrong with using Megs conditioner on auto leather. It smells nice!

[JoeDirt]

Re: leather seats

I used a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser on the leather seats in my '97 Explorer, after is on the left, before is on the right. I followed up with Gold Class afterwards, and they're still as soft and supple as they were when I did them this past spring...

[Ravi_1992]

Re: leather seats

I'm pretty sure gold class leather Clean/Conditioner is fine on vinyl, I use it all the time and if most "leather" interiors are coated with vinyl, then this is perfectly fine to use, no problems what so ever for me.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: leather seats

I'm pretty sure gold class leather Clean/Conditioner is fine on vinyl, I use it all the time and if most "leather" interiors are coated with vinyl, then this is perfectly fine to use, no problems what so ever for me.

We're always fine with you using our leather products on vinyl, but we don't recommend the vinyl products on leather.

[Bill Davidson]

Re: leather seats

The seats that Joe Dirt posted up above are perforated. Some have had issues with using a leather cream filling this holes. A leather spray was suggested. While this makes sense, is there any way to use a cream without filling these holes. ie. a real light coating or reducing the cream to a thin consistency. I know there are plenty of people out there that purchase the cream without considering this issue beforehand.

Suggestions... (other than buying the spray)

[Murr1525]

Re: leather seats

For stitching/perforations, you would want to apply to your cloth, not the seat, and keep it thin. The new Gel is also a good option besides the spray.

[Bill Davidson]

Re: leather seats

For stitching/perforations, you would want to apply to your cloth, not the seat, and keep it thin. The new Gel is also a good option besides the spray.

I was hoping that was going to be the solution. I haven't worked with it myself.

[JoeDirt]

Re: leather seats

I use the leather conditioner cream on the non-perf areas pretty good, and on the rag, reduced and with a light rub on the perf. areas. I really didnt care too much for the leather spray. I haven't tried the gel yet.

My buddy used the cream on his Explorer, and squirted it on the perforated area, wiped it all over, then spent 20 minutes with a toothpick having to pop all of the holes through again.

[Brian Hann]

Re: leather seats

Agreed!
The new Gold Class Gel is an awesome product and definitely the way to go if you have perforated leather.