opps another 83?

[97t-bird]

ok today was a fairly nice day as nice as its going to be in december it was about 50 degrees and pretty cloudy. But i couldnt wait to detail my car and try out the g-100 and 83 82 81 and 26. I think i did it wrong.

On the 83 at first i was working a fairly small on 5 with a 8006 pad it seemed extremely hard to remove and i tried wiping it off right after i thought it had broken down. But as i progressed it was still seeming pretty hard to remove. Then i seemed to find a point that it was easy to wipe off but it was still pretty moist but i dont think i was working it long enough. I think i was going through the 83 too fast.

So that it seemed to remove a few very slight swirls but nothing like i thought it was suppose to so i moved on to 82 i seemed to find the stuff a little bit easier to work with but i dont think i was letting it break down enough i wasnt letting it be as moist as the 83 so i am not too sure on how it helped me. I was using 5 and a 8006 pad

then i moved onto 81 since it is a pure polish i simply applied it to a relatively small section at a time and then wiped it. it was still very wet I had to have two cloths with me one to do the initial wipe and another to remove the streakyness. It wasnt hard to remove at all was i at least doing this one right. Or not.
I was using 4 with a 8006 pad

then i went onto 26 i used a 9006 pad on speed 4 i put a thin film on the whole car then let it dry and wiped it off. I am pretty sure i did this one right.

*Im really in the dark with 83 82 and 81
* I have not been able to see the car in the sun at all since it was cloudy all day and i was under my car port. and when i was done it was dark. I know there are still some scratches and swirls there that can be removed. so tomorrow is the first time i will get to see it in the sun i am hoping that my 5 hours of work werent all for nothing. If not ill put on another coat of 26. If it turns out it is **** ill start all over again. Any help would br greatly appreciated im getting frustrated as if you couldnt tell. please help. Thanks Greg.

[Mike Phillips]

Hi Greg,

Sounds like you're running into a lot of trouble and the one thing each step had in common was the temperature. It could be that it's just too cold to enable these products to perform properly.

You mention it was 50 degrees outside?

Here's something on temperature from our FAQ,

4. What temperature ranges are best for applying cleaners, polishes, and waxes degrees

When we talk about surface temperatures, we need to consider three factors:

• Surface Temperature
• Ambient Temperature
• Relative Humidity
• Surface Temperature (Actual surface temperature of the vehicle)

The best surface temperature range for applying cleaners, polishes, and protectants is approximately 60 degrees to 80 degrees Fahrenheit. More importantly, the surface does not feel warm or hot to the touch.

Basically, when you're working within this temperature range, it's not too cold, and it's not too warm to realize exceptional results from just about any Meguiar's product.

Meguiar's products will work easily within a much broader temperature range, such as, 50 degrees to 90 degrees Fahrenheit, but guaranteed best results will be achieved in the 60 degrees to 80 degrees range.

Ambient Temperature (Outside temperature)
Ambient temperature is the room temperature or the temperature of the surrounding environment. It's easily possible to have between 10 to 50 degrees difference in ambient temperature compared to surface temperature. This can make the difference between a product that's easy to work with, or hard to work with. Keep in mind, the hotter the ambient temperature, the quicker products will dry.

Humidity (Moisture in the air)
Simply put, humidity is moisture in the air. Technically there is Relative Humidity and Absolute Humidity, but as it relates to:

• Applying
• Working with
• Curing, drying, hazing
• Wipe-off or removal of car care products.

The simple explanation of moisture in the air, or more specifically, the amount of moisture in the air is the major factor, which will affect how easily or potentially difficult a product will be to work with, or a procedure will be to perform.

Low humidity, in warm to hot temperatures, will act to cause liquids to evaporate and dry more quickly. This can make a product difficult to work with or decrease the amount of time the product remains easily workable on the surface.

High humidity in cold temperatures can make products hard to work because it can dramatically increase the amount of time necessary for the product to cure, dry or haze (depending on which product you're using).

Low humidity in low temperatures tends not to be a factor in working with, cure times, and when applying and in the removal of cleaners, polishes, and protectants (Low temperatures are a factor, but not low humidity in low temperatures).

High humidity in high temperatures tends not to be a factor in working with, cure times, and when applying and in the removal of cleaners, polishes, and protectants (High temperatures are a factor, but not high humidity in high temperatures)

Extreme temperatures, both cold and hot will make any product more difficult to work with.

Direct sunlight
Direct sunlight will dramatically increase the surface temperature compared to ambient temperatures and make cleaners, polishes and protectants extremely more difficult to apply, work and remove.

Air current/Wind
Air current/air flow, or windy conditions will act to increase the evaporation speed and potentially making some products more difficult to apply, work, or remove. In some cases this can be a bonus, helping a wax to cure/dry more quickly.

Summary
The best conditions for using cleaners, polishes and protectants on automotive paints would be in a cool place, out of direct sunlight, in a surface temperature range between 60 degrees and 80 degrees Fahrenheit, with comfortable to low humidity, with a light breeze to create the perfect conditions for detailing your car's finish.

Common sense and a good rule-of-thumb is to avoid applying any product if the surface is too warm to touch with the palm of your hand comfortably.

50 degrees Fahrenheit = 10.0 degrees Celsius
90 degrees Fahrenheit = 32.2 degrees Celsius



The problems you're experiencing could all be related to outdoor temperature and the surface temperature of your car's panels.

Mike

[97t-bird]

I thought that i totally wasted my time but when i went out to see my car i was totallly blown away the results were awesome the car has never looked that good. But i figured it was because it was too cold out i know that it is going to take some time for me to get use to the cleaners but i threw on another coat of 26 and was totally blown away. thanks for your help i took some pics yesterday ill post them later for every one. Thanks again Greg.