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    My parent's house has EXTREMELY hard water and for some reason their softener was not hooked up to discharge through the outside spigot. So I got thinking how I could reduced water spots as they are really bad whenever I wash my car there.

    So I had an old Mr. Clean Autodry system that I never really used since I didn't like the soap that well but I thought the filter might work well.

    What I did was spray down the car with un-softened water and then quickly went over it with the filtered water. I then proceeded to wash the car as normal but instead of using hard water to rinse I used the filtered water. It took a few seconds longer to rinse off the soap but it seemed to work well. In fact the car pretty much dried by itself with very little spotting.

    I then pulled in the garage and went over the car with UQD followed by UQW and it came out much better than previous times.

    The only negative is that I went through an entire filter cartridge in one use and I really wasn't using it that much.

    I'm thinking of getting a filter for outdoors there from Lowe's or possibly one of these in-hose filters http://www.hosefilter.com/ . Who knows. Anyone else have any effective solutions without forking over $90 plus for a filter system?

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    You could always just have your house softener hooked up to the outside spigot. I am thinking about doing that here soon, wasn't in the budget to to do it when I installed the softener because of the extra run back to the spigot. Its hard to believe though that you used the whole cartridge to rinse the car, I had one years ago and remember is lasting quite a few washes.
    Fergy-

    You're only as good as your last detail

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    • #3
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      Originally posted by MrCLRider View Post
      You could always just have your house softener hooked up to the outside spigot. I am thinking about doing that here soon, wasn't in the budget to to do it when I installed the softener because of the extra run back to the spigot. Its hard to believe though that you used the whole cartridge to rinse the car, I had one years ago and remember is lasting quite a few washes.
      Very true. I may look at that as an option too.

      It's hard to believe but it's true. I used the Mr. Clean system years ago at my house and it lasted quite a bit. Like I said though I didn't like the soap that well and I had this unused cartridge laying around. I know it was new because it still had the strip on the top and I just put it in yesterday. The water is so hard at my parent's house that I can feel the difference even in the soap bucket with the GC. It doesn't mix as well and doesn't feel nearly as slick as it does at my house. Amazing how those little things can make a huge difference.

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      • #4
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        Many detailers don’t have a water filtration installed so washing the vehicle with ordinary tap water and a garden hose is the only option. Here’s a way to minimize the effects of hard water when washing your vehicle.

        If you are using tap water that contains high levels of minerals such as calcium hydroxide or silicates, some of the polymers will bond to these minerals and take them out of solution therefore more product might be necessary to compensate for this effect. By adding Optimum No Rinse (ONR) to a regular car wash soap will improves the results when using tap water (0.5 oz / gallon) always add it to the water to remove the minerals before adding your soap. This will maximize the benefits of using No Rinse in this manner.

        By washing after the sun has set, the air has cooled, the dew point has risen (more moisture in the air means water evaporates more slowly), and an added advantage is that the bombers of the air have flown home to roost.
        ~ Providing unbiased advice that Professional and Enthusiast Detailer’s Trust ~ Blog – http://togwt1980.blogspot.com

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          By washing after the sun has set, the air has cooled, the dew point has risen (more moisture in the air means water evaporates more slowly), and an added advantage is that the bombers of the air have flown home to roost.
          That may work too. Although, the water here may be too hard for it to make a big difference. The hardness isn't a big deal if I'm going to be claying the vehicle but for just a wash and UQW it's a pain in the rear.

          Thanks for the tips.

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            I seem to remember a while back the following. Another mol'er had a issue like yours. He went to Wally World and bought a in line rv filter for the hose line. He claims it worked like a charm. I think it was south of $25.00 for his solution.
            quality creates its own demand

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            • #7
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              ONR really works for this!
              2011 Ford Mustang GT Cali Special
              2012 Kia Sorento EX

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                Originally posted by J. A. Michaels View Post
                I seem to remember a while back the following. Another mol'er had a issue like yours. He went to Wally World and bought a in line rv filter for the hose line. He claims it worked like a charm. I think it was south of $25.00 for his solution.
                Might have been me. I bought an inline filter and plumbed it into the garage. When I want soft water, I connect the hose to it and then another hose out. It has a water softening cartridge, (not just a filter) just like a home water softening system. It is good for about 100 gallons, and rather than buy another cartridge , you just soak the cartridge in a dishpan with water softening salt, so it will last indefinitely. With a black car, it is a godsend..no more spots. (less soap too!)
                I think the cartridge is about $18 and the salt is $5 for a 50lbs bag. (It will last a long, long time.) When I get home I will find the URL if someone hasn't posted it by then.

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                • #9
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                  Here it is: http://www.pwgazette.com/gardenhosefilters.htm
                  Read about filter FC024

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by Blueline View Post
                    Here it is: http://www.pwgazette.com/gardenhosefilters.htm
                    Read about filter FC024

                    That's not the one Mr. Michaels was referring to. It is a blue RV water filter found in the RV section at Wal-Mart. It is less than $20. I have one and use it everytime I wash. It works extremely well for reducing waterspots considering the cost of the filter. I've had mine for a very long time and it is still going strong.

                    Colin
                    A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

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                    • #11
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                      I was not saying it was. I was relaying what I had, although both are virtually the same, but different in color. It is the filter inside that counts.

                      You must have fairly soft water to start with. An RV filter is for taste and sediment. It will not filter out dissolved minerals in hard water which is the cause of water spots. Good that it works for you though.

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                      • #12
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                        Hey everyone, I was just trying to relay some info. Trying to help out. Did not mean to start anything.
                        quality creates its own demand

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                        • #13
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                          Blueline is right on. In order to have "soft" water you need to use a water softener that uses salt. The WM "filters" have nothing to do with softening the water ie. removing the minerals that cause the spots. There is a softener sold in the RV industry that is very portable and uses common table salt to rejuvinate hence no messing with a 50lb bag of rock salt. But it aint cheap either. Around $300. www.portablewatersoftener.com
                          Barry

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                          • #14
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                            So it sounds like the Wally world rv filter won't work... Orvsomeone else had reasonable documented success? Either wayim going to try it for a few washes, Wally W let's you return anything used or not!

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                              Another way to look at it....water filters remove things "suspended" in the water like sediment. Softeners remove things "dissolved" in the water like the minerals that cause water spots.
                              Barry

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