Dull Single Stage Paint, What to use?

[DENALI]

Working on car with an older single stage paint job. Its not oxidized or anything just has very little shine to it. I dont want to use a rotary buffer on it as there are some weak areas so i want to use a DA style buffer but i do not know what pads and products from Meguires to use on it. Thanks for any input.

[Murr1525]

Re: Dull Single Stage Paint, What to use?

Do you already have a DA? What kind do you have?

[roushstage2]

Re: Dull Single Stage Paint, What to use?

Little to no shine on SS paint is generally oxidization. Either way, single stage paint is pretty easy to work with.

Assuming you have a D/A:
Clean: either M83 or M80 on a polishing pad
Polish: M07 on a finishing pad
Wax: pick one --> finishing pad

Just need to know which D/A for the proper speed settings

[DENALI]

Re: Dull Single Stage Paint, What to use?

Do you already have a DA? What kind do you have?

No i am planning to buy one in the next few days. Thanks

[sleepy]

Re: Dull Single Stage Paint, What to use?

If you have not decided on wht kind of DA you want, I would strongly recommend the new Meguiars g110v2, very user friendly. Do not forget to do the 5 step cleaning process. Then use the M83 or the M80 with the #7 polish with your wax. This process really brightened up my '64 belair.

[DENALI]

Re: Dull Single Stage Paint, What to use?

Little to no shine on SS paint is generally oxidization. Either way, single stage paint is pretty easy to work with.

Assuming you have a D/A:
Clean: either M83 or M80 on a polishing pad
Polish: M07 on a finishing pad
Wax: pick one --> finishing pad

Just need to know which D/A for the proper speed settings

I am leaning towards the Meguiars g110v2, anyone knbow of the best place to get one? Thanks

[LelandGray]

Re: Dull Single Stage Paint, What to use?

www.autodetailingsolutions.com or www.autogeek.net or Meguiar's online.

[gemini]

Re: Dull Single Stage Paint, What to use?

try M 80
upgarde to a cutting pad
or wool if it too oxidised

[RGP]

Re: Dull Single Stage Paint, What to use?

Overkill with possibly disastrous results.

[DENALI]

Re: Dull Single Stage Paint, What to use?

Anyone know what speed setting to use onthe meguires DA? Thanks

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Dull Single Stage Paint, What to use?

We're assuming that by "weak areas" you mean areas where the paint is a bit thin, right? You will want to proceed cautiously there, even with a D/A.

M80 Speed Glaze and M83 DACP are single stage paint's best friends. Either one on a W8207 yellow foam polishing pad should return excellent results, but expect to go through several pads as paint transfer/oxidation removal will really load them up. You may want as many as half a dozen pads for the project. Start with M80 on speed 4~5 in a test spot to see how effectively it brings the gloss back. If you know the paint to be thinning then you may even want to work all body panel edges by hand first, using either a piece of terry cloth towel or a small foam applicator pad. Paint on the edges of panels tends to be thinner than everywhere else and you can easily go through it when two panels meet up (usually unevenly!)

If you have some areas that don't seem to be responding to a couple passes of M80 then you can step up to M83, but just know that M83 is not quite as forgiving a product as M80. That's not a bad thing - M80 is just ridiculously easy to work with, so in comparison M83 can seem a touch finicky, primarily in that it will tend to dust a bit relative to M80. Cleaning your pads often, and switching to fresh pads regularly, will help a lot.

[DENALI]

Re: Dull Single Stage Paint, What to use?

We're assuming that by "weak areas" you mean areas where the paint is a bit thin, right? You will want to proceed cautiously there, even with a D/A.

M80 Speed Glaze and M83 DACP are single stage paint's best friends. Either one on a W8207 yellow foam polishing pad should return excellent results, but expect to go through several pads as paint transfer/oxidation removal will really load them up. You may want as many as half a dozen pads for the project. Start with M80 on speed 4~5 in a test spot to see how effectively it brings the gloss back. If you know the paint to be thinning then you may even want to work all body panel edges by hand first, using either a piece of terry cloth towel or a small foam applicator pad. Paint on the edges of panels tends to be thinner than everywhere else and you can easily go through it when two panels meet up (usually unevenly!)

If you have some areas that don't seem to be responding to a couple passes of M80 then you can step up to M83, but just know that M83 is not quite as forgiving a product as M80. That's not a bad thing - M80 is just ridiculously easy to work with, so in comparison M83 can seem a touch finicky, primarily in that it will tend to dust a bit relative to M80. Cleaning your pads often, and switching to fresh pads regularly, will help a lot.

Speaking of cleaning the pads, how do you clean the foam pads?

[THE BIG BUFFER]

Re: Dull Single Stage Paint, What to use?

Anyone know what speed setting to use onthe meguires DA? Thanks

On SS paint I use a Meguiars Yellow (8006) pad on speed #5 with M80 and the g110. I've had great results using this combo with no problems. I would stay away from a wool pad as a beginner. I top it off with M07 and a W9006 flesh colored finish pad. I don't like doing SS painted cars because they tend to ruin pads.
As for cleaning pads I do all mine by hand. I use warm water and a drop of Sunlight dish soap. I massage the soap into the pad under running luke warm water. Rince till there is no soap. I then take them outside and shake the excess water off (like a paint brush) then put the pad on my rotary on high speed, turn it sidways and let it run for about a min. This removes almost all the water in the pad. Then lay flat to dry.They go into a ziplock bag whan completely dry.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Dull Single Stage Paint, What to use?

Speaking of cleaning the pads, how do you clean the foam pads?

If you use our new Soft Buff 2.0 pads, you simply throw them in the washer and dryer. Of course, since you're dealing with single stage paint you may want to pre wash them in a bucket with some dish soap first otherwise you'll be putting all that colored, oxidized paint into the washing machine - might be a problem for your better half. Of course, if you're a bachelor..... go for it!

But seriously, a simple wash and dry will clean them up nicely. You may have some permanent staining depending on the color of the car, but that does not mean they can no longer be used or that they are damaged in any way. It's also a good idea to compress the pads against a terry cloth towel after every couple of passes in order to force any excess product out of the pad. This will prolong the use of the pad before swapping to a fresh one, and help maintain the effectiveness of the pad while working with it.