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    Getting a darker shine out of a black finish

    Hey guys,

    I am going to do a little detail next week on my 2008 xB... The color is Black Sand Pearl, which is a black with a multi-color flake inside of it. I have been using NXT 2.0 as my LSP pretty exclusively with it, but I wonder if I can try using another product to really bring out more depth and darkness. Sometimes it just doesn't seem "true" black to me...

    My last detail I ran Swirl-X, #7, and M21... The results were amazing, for sure. But I want a tad more darkness to the paint, if that is even possible... I mean, I figure running #7 it would have darkened it up as much as it could, but I did not see that much of a difference. Swirl X prepped it pretty well!

    Should I try running the Yellow Wax this time around (M26)? Next week I will clean, clay in areas, and run #80 via PCXP and softbuff pads. Then maybe put a coat of M21 on and the next day layer with M26? How would this combo work? Could I even put an additional layer of UQW on top to bring back some hydrophobic action? If so, how long should I wait before I use the UQW on top of the M26? Don't want to risk removing any of my hard work!

    Would this maybe bring me more depth and black to my finish? Or is my car just too damn shiny to be really black?
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    Re: Getting a darker shine out of a black finish

    The general consensus is to put down a layer of sealant like M21 or NXT before putting a wax like what you're trying to do.

    But IME, I find that going straight to wax leaves the true results. On my fiance's black subaru, after I polish it out with something like M205, I don't put down any sealant. I go straight to either Gold Class Liquid Wax or M26 and the car is as black as night.

    Of course it's sacrificing durability as GC or M26 seems to only last 3-4 weeks.

    If you really want the darkening effect though, you could try some Gold Class Liquid Wax. It made her car the deepest darkest black I've ever seen. More so than M26.
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    • #3
      Re: Getting a darker shine out of a black finish

      Have you clayed the vehicle? Bonded contaminants can detract from the overall gloss and depth of the paint.

      Aside from that, I would focus mostly on prep (the polishing to remove swirls that will lessen darkness by adding white light), and after using the wax of your choice I would top it with Ultimate Quik Wax.

      UQW adds an incredible amount of dark wetness to paint.

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      • #4
        Re: Getting a darker shine out of a black finish

        Originally posted by Caress Detailing View Post
        But IME, I find that going straight to wax leaves the true results. On my fiance's black subaru, after I polish it out with something like M205, I don't put down any sealant. I go straight to either Gold Class Liquid Wax or M26 and the car is as black as night.

        Of course it's sacrificing durability as GC or M26 seems to only last 3-4 weeks.

        If you really want the darkening effect though, you could try some Gold Class Liquid Wax. It made her car the deepest darkest black I've ever seen. More so than M26.
        Yes, I completely agree. Skip the sealant for best results on black cars. The sacrifice of durability is well worth it.

        The reason Gold Class Wax gives slightly better result than M26 is probably due to its polishing agents.

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        • #5
          Re: Getting a darker shine out of a black finish

          Originally posted by invertalon View Post
          Or is my car just too damn shiny to be really black?
          Actually, it's too metallic to be really black. All of our company vehicles are black, but they are all non-metallic black because that color is the biggest challenge, but it yields the highest dividends.

          Others have made some very good recommendations already, but the final choice is really up to you - your expectations, your standards, you likes/dislikes.
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          • #6
            Re: Getting a darker shine out of a black finish

            I figured it was just the nature of the metallic paint, sadly!

            And I always have clayed before any of my details, so surface prep was not any of my issue. I guess I was just trying to get deeper then I could possible... Oh well, not a big deal!

            Appreciate all the help!!

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            • #7
              Re: Getting a darker shine out of a black finish

              Sadly? Hardly!

              I got my wife a M45 with white matallic paint so I woudn't have to spend as much time polishing it. Despite the swirlsand RIDS, the car looks beautiful without a hardcore polish. Just clay and M26 would do.

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              • #8
                Re: Getting a darker shine out of a black finish

                Yeah, that is a benefit of a metallic paint...Don't get me wrong, I love it. Nothing can beat a pure black finish though...

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