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  • #16
    Re: Different LSPs for different seasons?

    Originally posted by Sandstone View Post
    Sad but I'm all you have right now .
    And I am grateful that we have you! Thanks for sharing with us your expertise.

    Yes paint can be oiled or nourished somewhat like a wood finish can. The more porous the paint, the better it will take the oil so I would think that a soft porous single stage will tend to absorb (and probably adsorb) more than a hard almost non porous clear coat.
    Does the application of these oils benefit the paint itself?
    Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
    --Al Kimel

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    • #17
      Re: Different LSPs for different seasons?

      Originally posted by akimel View Post
      And I am grateful that we have you! Thanks for sharing with us your expertise.
      You're very welcome. It's the least I can do for all of the good info I have found here.

      Does the application of these oils benefit the paint itself?

      Yes. The oils will moisturize the paint, make it more pliable and help prevent cracking. As far as visual effects go, if you think about the little red benz that's on the UC label. IIRC just the oils in GC wash had a dramatic effect on the paint's appearance.

      Use Dawn too much and it will dry out the paint and cause cracking although it might take a year depending on the vehicle's location.

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      • #18
        Re: Different LSPs for different seasons?

        And, I wonder if the oils in M7 would penetrate the micro-scratches in the clear-coat and slow things down. (Assuming the problem is "brittelness").

        I am sure there is a detailer here who specializes in antique paint jobs. But, he'd probably have to kill us if he told us.

        I intend to eventually repaint, but, thanks to MEGS I feel no rush.

        In fact, the other day, after I had applied some M-7 and NXT in the garage, I heard the trash truck go by.

        Next thing, I was startled to hear "how did you make your car look like that? The truck driver had gotten out of the truck and was standing at the door. I showed him a bottle of M7 and NXT.

        I should have said it's a combo of products and good how-to advice. Which is true.
        Last edited by Jossy92; Jul 30, 2009, 08:20 AM. Reason: removed some ramblings
        Success is never final, failure is never fatal. It's courage that counts.
        by John Wooden

        '88 Honda

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        • #19
          Re: Different LSPs for different seasons?

          I start with NXT 2.0 year round. In the summer months I use a softer carnuba wax that looks better. In the winter I like using Collinite (476) on top of NXT. Collinite makes really hard waxes. They don't shine as much but they last for months!

          I need to try Collinite 845.

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          • #20
            Re: Different LSPs for different seasons?

            PS These days I use M20 as a cleaner wax topped with NXT 2.0 all year round. I think I like the NXT 1.0 better because the beading goes away quicker so the sheeting begins sooner.

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            • #21
              Re: Different LSPs for different seasons?

              Originally posted by Jossy92 View Post
              Thanks and what carnuba do you use?
              Depends on the car and the occasion. For special occasions, I use Zymol Glasur (all the time on my Porsche), but for every day use on the 300C it's actually a Saab branded carnauba liquid that I got a few years ago. I have reason to believe that it's a liquid version of Zymol's Saab wax. I'm also known to use M26 and Gold Class on my cars.
              I WOULD use MPPP all the time (non-carnauba) but a particular company stopped making it...
              If a tree falls in the forest and there's nobody there to record the event, how can you be certain that there was a tree or even a forest to begin with?

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              • #22
                Re: Different LSPs for different seasons?

                Originally posted by Justin A View Post
                Depends on the car and the occasion. For special occasions, I use Zymol Glasur (all the time on my Porsche), but for every day use on the 300C it's actually a Saab branded carnauba liquid that I got a few years ago. I have reason to believe that it's a liquid version of Zymol's Saab wax. I'm also known to use M26 and Gold Class on my cars.
                I WOULD use MPPP all the time (non-carnauba) but a particular company stopped making it...
                I guess LSP's are like fine wine(?) I googled MPPP and it sounds like you had found a great porduct. I am going try M26.
                Success is never final, failure is never fatal. It's courage that counts.
                by John Wooden

                '88 Honda

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                • #23
                  Re: Different LSPs for different seasons?

                  Just for the record, some of you may not be aware of what a *real* winter is like, detailing wise........ The idea of using some UQW after a quick wash or some such, just doesn't seem like a good idea where I live. To illustrate, I, as many of the rest of you, enjoy a nice cup of hot coffee when I'm detailing my car.... *If* I were to step out to the car with such a cup of hot coffee in my hand and I accidentally stumbled and spilled my coffee out of the cup........ this is what happens in Winnipeg:




                  I'm not even going to mention what happens when you DO wash the car at the wand wash and forget to leave the doors ajar on the first notch on the lock so the rubber seals aren't actually touching the door frame for the first hour or so after washing the car while you're driving home...... Spring might be 5 months away..... that's a long time to be stuck in your car because the doors froze shut after a wash......

                  So, I'm going to do my best to stay away from the Swirl-O-Matic this winter, but dang.... they have this heated tunnel wash, they vacuum the insides of the car, clean the windows on the inside and remove all the water on your door seals *AND* blow the remaining water out of your door locks before the car exits the other end..........


                  Regards

                  Kaptain "Did I mention that I happen to HATE winter?" Zero

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                  • #24
                    Re: Different LSPs for different seasons?

                    Originally posted by kaptain_zero View Post
                    Just for the record, some of you may not be aware of what a *real* winter is like, detailing wise........ The idea of using some UQW after a quick wash or some such, just doesn't seem like a good idea where I live. To illustrate, I, as many of the rest of you, enjoy a nice cup of hot coffee when I'm detailing my car.... *If* I were to step out to the car with such a cup of hot coffee in my hand and I accidentally stumbled and spilled my coffee out of the cup........ this is what happens in Winnipeg:

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgWRVrQgLYI
                    Good to the last, frozen, drop.
                    r. b.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Different LSPs for different seasons?

                      Ah... but if only there WERE a last frozen drop.........

                      Here's an even better view of what happens, there is no water falling to the ground, it just turns into instant vapor.

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSQufNaXhy8


                      Regards

                      Kaptain "What I wouldn't give for a dry heat" Zero

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                      • #26
                        Re: Different LSPs for different seasons?

                        Originally posted by Sandstone View Post
                        Yes. The oils will moisturize the paint, make it more pliable and help prevent cracking. As far as visual effects go, if you think about the little red benz that's on the UC label. IIRC just the oils in GC wash had a dramatic effect on the paint's appearance.

                        Use Dawn too much and it will dry out the paint and cause cracking although it might take a year depending on the vehicle's location.
                        I agree with you here.

                        I've heard some say that clearcoats will not absorb anything, but I never really believed that. Time after time, I've watched neglected CC paint look even better, a week or two later, after the first application of Meguiar's trade secret oils.

                        And I believe the reason for that is due to the paint soaking up those oils.
                        r. b.

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