Hi-Tech Yellow Wax#26

[mohebmhanna]

Hello,
I would like to know if I can use the yellow wax#26 after using NXT wax @2. The reason I would like to know that to see if the yellow wax#26 is ok and safe for 2008 Infiniti G35.

Thanks
Moheb

[akimel]

Re: Hi-Tech Yellow Wax#26

Absolutely! NXT topped with M26 is a very popular combo here on MOL.

[Desertdawg]

Re: Hi-Tech Yellow Wax#26

Make sure your wearing sunglasses when you do it, the shine will blind you.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Hi-Tech Yellow Wax#26

Read this classic thread too...


Topping NXT aka "How to top one type of wax with a different type of wax

[AeroCleanse]

Re: Hi-Tech Yellow Wax#26

What's the percent of carnuba in #26 ?

[akimel]

Re: Hi-Tech Yellow Wax#26

What's the percent of carnuba in #26 ?

Haha! You should know by now that they aren't going to tell us that--proprietary info and all that.

[mohebmhanna]

Re: Hi-Tech Yellow Wax#26

Thanks to all.

Mike,
Very intersting info in your link. Thanks again.

[AeroCleanse]

Re: Hi-Tech Yellow Wax#26

Haha! You should know by now that they aren't going to tell us that--proprietary info and all that.

Not knowing how much carnuba in there has stopped me from buying it.

[Markus Kleis]

Re: Hi-Tech Yellow Wax#26

Not knowing how much carnuba in there has stopped me from buying it.

Out of pure curiosity, why exactly are you looking for the percentage of carnauba?

One reason I ask is because I have read enough about waxes to know that the percentage given by manufacturers is completely unregulated and without any sort of scientific standard. In other words- it's marketing hype because companies know that people associate lots of carnauba with quality car wax.

Personally, I just look for products that give me the results I want at a price I like...I don't really care what the product is (as long as it isn't going to harm anything or anyone), I want RESULTS!

[AeroCleanse]

Re: Hi-Tech Yellow Wax#26

Out of pure curiosity, why exactly are you looking for the percentage of carnauba?

Because I have been unhappy with "lower quality" waxes / sealants.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Hi-Tech Yellow Wax#26

Not knowing how much carnuba in there has stopped me from buying it.

If I ask the chemist, the answer will likely be something like this,

the appropriate amount


Seriously, if you don't like it then you can always return it with your receipt to the store from which you purchased it and get a refund of your money.

[Markus Kleis]

Re: Hi-Tech Yellow Wax#26

Because I have been unhappy with "lower quality" waxes / sealants.

Gotcha. So if I am following where this is going (correct me if I am wrong! ) you are looking for either a certain percentage of carnauba, or just generally more carnauba so you can count on it being a quality product?

Fair enough. Well, like Mike said, buy it, try it, and if it doesn't meet your standards- get a refund!

[BarryK]

Re: Hi-Tech Yellow Wax#26

Gotcha. So if I am following where this is going (correct me if I am wrong! ) you are looking for either a certain percentage of carnauba, or just generally more carnauba so you can count on it being a quality product?

Fair enough. Well, like Mike said, buy it, try it, and if it doesn't meet your standards- get a refund!

hmmm, following that logic... than tell me which is better:
1. a wax with a higher percentage of carnauba
2. a wax with a slightly lower percentage of carnauba BUT the carnauba used is of higher quality.

I wouldn't necessarily think that JUST because one wax may have a higher percentage of carnauba that it is automatically a better wax.

Personally, I use a lot of #26 wax and like it but hey, that's just me.

[Markus Kleis]

Re: Hi-Tech Yellow Wax#26

hmmm, following that logic... than tell me which is better:
1. a wax with a higher percentage of carnauba
2. a wax with a slightly lower percentage of carnauba BUT the carnauba used is of higher quality.

I wouldn't necessarily think that JUST because one wax may have a higher percentage of carnauba that it is automatically a better wax.

Personally, I use a lot of #26 wax and like it but hey, that's just me.

I'm with you on this Barry. I'm not a chemist (like Mike P likes to say), but I am a detailer. I try products and if I like the way they work, I use them again. I don't really care what goes into the product.

I have researched some and I do know that when it comes to labels and promise of carnauba quality or content, it is really nothing more than marketing.

At the same time, I respect someone's view if they put value in that information, and I understand why he/she may choose to believe that.

[akimel]

Re: Hi-Tech Yellow Wax#26

Aerocleanse, are you sure that the higher percentage of carnauba the "better" the wax? Four years ago CMA addressed this question:

Carnauba in today's wax formulas functions mostly as a carrier. It is the vehicle used to keep the polymers and oils on your car's surface. Only a small portion of your vehicle's shine comes from the "wax" (i.e. carnauba) itself. Carnauba is translucent at best with only minimal light reflection.

Modern folklore propagates the myth that increasing the Carnauba content of a wax will make the wax "better". This is marginally true at best. Increasing the Carnauba content up to a point (30 to 37%), will increase the waxes durability but will not affect the shine. If the Carnauba content is too high (40% or more), the result is a rock-hard, wax brick. You simply would not be able to apply it to a vehicle! Be wary of manufacturerers that claim high (40%+) wax contents. They are either lying or they include softer, cheaper waxes (beeswax, palm wax, paraffin) in their formula.

Unless one is a chemist and knows how various ingredients, natural and synthetic, work together, how does knowing the carnauba percentage really help one determine whether it is a good wax? Is it not possible that a wax can have a high carnauba percentage and yet be a lousy wax? Is it not possible that a wax might have a lower carnauba content than its competitors and yet be a superior because because of the way it is blended with other waxes, oils, solvents, and polymers? Does a spaghetti sauce taste better because it has a higher percentage of tomatoes in it than other spaghetti sauces? (Also see this Autopia thread and this MOL thread.)

And how exactly does one go about measuring carnauba percentages anyway? See this article by Dom Colbeck of Dodo Juice.

Do you know the carnauba percentage in the following waxes, all of which are generally recognized as being high quality waxes: Collinite 915, Pinnacle Souveran, Wolfgang Fuzion, P21S 100%, Blackfire Midnight Sun, Dodo Juice Supernatural, Chemical Guys' 50/50? Now perhaps I have missed information that has been made publicly available, but as far as I know the carnauba percentages of these waxes have not been published, though a couple of the manufacturers do claim that their waxes have the maximum workable amount of carnauba (somewhere presumably between 30-35% of volume). It is my hope and intention to try each of the above waxes over the next year. I want to try them not because I know their chemistry but because of the good (though also conflicting) reports I hear from those who have tried them. I suggest that you approach the matter the same way. Try several waxes and see whether you like them or not.

M26 really is a no-brainer. It only costs approximately $12 a bottle, and it comes with a 100% satisfaction money-back guarantee. M26 has been around a good while and is widely judged to be one of the best wax buys for the money. It is applauded for its dark, deep look. What do you have to lose? You may find yourself delightfully surprised by the results.

Bottomline: go with performance, not chemistry.

Cheers,
Al