Workability of Ford paint?

[IMSHAKN]

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The Ford Fusion/MKZ lines have lots of orange peel...kinda annoying.

Lol, you think those are bad, you should see the factory run in my 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1. Between that run and the nasty orange peel on the car I sometimes just want to say screw it and get a repaint.

I thought the Fusion has a little better paint that some of the other vehicles that have come down ford's assembly lines. I wish they had paint as nice as say Pontiac. There is minimal amounts of orange peel on my fathers black solstice. I'm jealous.

[Bunky]

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As others have said, best way to find out is a test spot.

However I'm with others who have spoken up about their experience with Ford paint. Most of my work is conducted on Ford paint as I worked with a Local Ford Dealer for several years and most of the cars I currently do are Mustangs for Friends and those who see/heard about some of my work at performance shops and on local boards. Ford paint is very easy to work with, but it does generally take a little more aggressive combo than other paints I've worked on. Best results have always been from products coming out of either Meguiar's or 3M.

As far as the orange peel goes, I swear Ford uses drunken robots to paint some of their cars as the orange peel is generally a little heavier than a lot of other paints on the market.

The Ford Fusion/MKZ lines have lots of orange peel...kinda annoying.

[IMSHAKN]

Re: Workability of Ford paint?

As others have said, best way to find out is a test spot.

However I'm with others who have spoken up about their experience with Ford paint. Most of my work is conducted on Ford paint as I worked with a Local Ford Dealer for several years and most of the cars I currently do are Mustangs for Friends and those who see/heard about some of my work at performance shops and on local boards. Ford paint is very easy to work with, but it does generally take a little more aggressive combo than other paints I've worked on. Best results have always been from products coming out of either Meguiar's or 3M.

As far as the orange peel goes, I swear Ford uses drunken robots to paint some of their cars as the orange peel is generally a little heavier than a lot of other paints on the market.

[Mike Phillips]

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What kind of wheels are on this truck? Are they aluminum or chrome? Or something different? It's an Eddie Bauer edition if that makes a difference.

From the picture they look like aluminum. What you need to find out is if they are coated aluminum or bare aluminum.

Rubbing a light paint cleaner using a white cloth or a metal polish to small section of the exterior finish should tell you if they are coated or anodized or bare aluminum. If they are bare aluminum your cloth will turn grayish black from the paint cleaner or metal polish removing oxidized aluminum.

If they are clear coated or anodized you may pull some surface dirt or road grime but your polishing cloth won't be turning grayish black.

[Markus Kleis]

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I believe they are aluminum. Definitely no chrome.

[CieraSL]

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Here's what his truck looked like after the last time I cleaned it - I think this was a couple of years ago. Don't remember what I used.



What kind of wheels are on this truck? Are they aluminum or chrome? Or something different? It's an Eddie Bauer edition if that makes a difference.

[Carfire]

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I agree with the above.
Coming from personal experience, it is not hard nor soft.
On the sides I think it is a little bit softer maybe.
And on the hood it is a little bit harder.

[CieraSL]

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Here's another question. What kind of wheels are on the mid to late '90's model Explorers? By that I mean are they chrome or aluminum or what? My uncle's Explorer is an Eddie Bauer edition, I think it's somewhere between a '95 and a '99 model if that makes a difference.

[MrCLRider]

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its always going to be a good thing to just do the test spot, just like disclaimers about trying cleaners for seats or whatever in inconspicuous places, this will help with knowing how strong to go when going from the least aggressive up.

[Mike Phillips]

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Actually, you'll find out real fast if the paint is polishable or not when you go out and do your test spot. That's the best way to find out how workable or polishable, or hard or soft if you prefer, the paint is.

At each of the Saturday classes we pick the WORST looking paint, and we don't know anything about it until we bring our hand down and start working a swirl and scratch remover over the surface and then inspect our results...

After one application of a paint cleaner like ScratchX 2.0 or a compound like Ultimate Compound, we can look at the amount of defects removed as compared to the original condition paint surrounding the test spot and at that point we can tell if the paint is hard or soft, or workable or polishable.

If we see a huge difference we know the paint is very polishable, if we see little to no improvement that tells us either the paint is very hard or unworkable or the swirls and scratches are very deep, but it's usually the first one when testing by hand but you don't now until you try.

Same thing applies when working by machine. The results from your first pass over your test spot should tell give you a very good indicator as to what you have to work with.

[Markus Kleis]

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Do a lot of Ford paints have the orange peeling effect? I was parked next to a new F-150 the other day and noticed that the paint looked bumpy.

Just the same as 95% of other factory produced cars. It varies model to model, car to car, but I don't find it particularly bad.

[Honda Fit]

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Do a lot of Ford paints have the orange peeling effect? I was parked next to a new F-150 the other day and noticed that the paint looked bumpy.

[Markus Kleis]

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Generally speaking, Ford paint is (like others mentioned) right in the middle. I find it to be a perfect medium (excuse the pun) of hard and soft characteristics. I rarely have problems when working with Ford paint.

Yes, I know I am a biased Ford lover... but still, I doubt many will disagree. That said, always be prepared for the unexpected... you never know...

[crjefferson]

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Last weekend I detailed a F150 from the early 2000's. The lighter swirls came out using ultimate compound and a DA on the majority of the truck the hood required a little more TLC and required M105 followed by Ultimate Compound to get it pretty shiny.

I would strongly suggest doing a test area or two to get your process down before going to town on the whole vehicle.

When you are done post some pics so we can see how it turned out.

[Andrew C.]

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My experiences are that it's basically right in the middle like you said. It isn't going to be incredibly easy to remove the swirls, but not incredibly hard either. It also all depends on the severity of the swirls. If they are just minor swirls then Swirl X may be enough to remove them, but it may need a few passes.

That being said, you can listen all you want to what people say about Ford paint, but what I said and what they say really isn't going to matter. Each paint behaves differently so it is really up to you to see how your Uncle's Explorer's paint responds. Make sure to do some test spots, see what works, and then move on from there.

Make sure to post some pics after you do it