M105 and Autopian Enthusiasm

[gjohn28]

Re: M105 and Autopian Enthusiasm

Eager to try the KBM, but not quite clear on the first two steps.

"1. Prime an orange pad with a good amount of M105. I draw lines accross the pad and fold it in half.

2. Press the pad onto a MF or clean cotton towel on a table and turn on your PC/Flex to 1 for about 20 seconds."

I've never tried folding a pad in half, but wouldn't this kind of wreck the velcro backing?

Regarding step 2, not sure exactly what is being described. Is this basically similar to the technique of cleaning the pad on the fly, as you would when using any type of cleaner/polish - preventing the pad from becoming over-saturated so you don't lose cutting power?

[Kevin Brown]

Re: M105 and Autopian Enthusiasm

Eager to try the KBM, but not quite clear on the first two steps.

"1. Prime an orange pad with a good amount of M105. I draw lines accross the pad and fold it in half.

2. Press the pad onto a MF or clean cotton towel on a table and turn on your PC/Flex to 1 for about 20 seconds."

I've never tried folding a pad in half, but wouldn't this kind of wreck the velcro backing?

Regarding step 2, not sure exactly what is being described. Is this basically similar to the technique of cleaning the pad on the fly, as you would when using any type of cleaner/polish - preventing the pad from becoming over-saturated so you don't lose cutting power?

Ummm, yeah, that is not correct advice.

That advice was given to one guy from another guy that was told how to do it (from what I know). Great guys, just don't have the info quite right (or rather, it is incomplete). No need to taco shell the pad... it's just how one guy does it, and that's fine. As for the towel... that is used to clean the pad and remove excess liquid.

I am intentionally avoiding posting this stuff here on MOL. Until I run the final copy by my buddies at Meguiar's, I will not post information that directly contradicts the recommendations set forth by Meguiar's directly. At least to the degree of specificity that this paper does.

Nope, I will require their 'okee-dokey' before I post information on MOL about this 'method'. I simply respect these guys and this site too much. I know there will likely be questions for the site about this 'method' versus the directions on the bottle. If it migrates here, I cannot control that! This is why most of my direct dialogue is done on another site. That, and there is a tremendous amount of interest.

FYI- In the paper, it will DEFINITELY recommend that the user follow the recommendations on the bottle PRIOR to trying the 'method'. After all, the directions are not taken lightly when they're being written. Can you imagine the hours invested in R&D testing that must have taken place? I would guess that, combined, they would total THOUSANDS of hours.

If the user feels he would like to try a different (or more aggressive) approach for defect removal, and an alternate way to polish, the paper will guide him through it. Fact is... the not named by me Kevin Brown method would not even work, were it not for products such as M105, M86, D151, and M205. These products are very good. So for now, read the bottle, work clean, and use lots of pads to keep things fresh!

Oh! I made this diagram to show how the movement of the random-orbital is created... It'll be in the 'paper'.



Thanks to the Rose/Dasher/Stoops trio for their input!

[Tom Weed]

Re: M105 and Autopian Enthusiasm

In my opinion, yes, Kevin's method is faster than doing an all rotary detail.

Sure, the rotary will remove the defects faster, but that usually means that you will have some holograms to deal with. Kevin's DA method saves you time because you really don't have to contend with holograms. There might be some light marring, but you can easily solve that by using M205.

My preferred method for using M205 is with a rotary. The gloss is just insane. The DA and M205 works really well, too.

I second that... I've done a black Cadalac Crossover that was scratched pretty bad and my car recently, I've gotten better results or I should saw awsome results on a rotary, 205 and a black finishing pad at 1100 PRM's and the results were stunning...