Cleaner/Polishes

[yalerd]

Re: Cleaner/Polishes

So since they are not cleaner/polishes but they finish like them and would it be more advisable to use a pure polish?

I know that products like M03, M07 have big differences on single stage paint, on clear coats too but not that noticeable like single stage but since these new products are out and are not formulated like M80 or M83 (that are rich in oils) would it be more recommended to use a pure polish?

I ask because M80 has many oils and sometimes I don't see the difference between M80/Wax and M80/M03 -or- M07/Wax

[akimel]

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The really good news is in most cases, at least in each case I've used these products, to date I've never experienced the hazing or micro-marring problems that you'll sometimes with our cleaner/polishes when used with a DA Polisher.

Mike, after reading all through all of the articles on the new products, the following question has been raised in my own mind: As you know, I am just learning how to use the G110. I've only used it on one car (it died the second time, and I received the replacement last week). Given that I stand at the beginning of the learning curve, would it be best for me to switch to the new consumer products, especially since the new products are so good at not producing micro-marring? It sounds like that the SwirlX-ScratchX-UC line might effectively "replace" the M80-M83 combo, at least for news like myself. (My car, btw, is a black Honda.)

TIA.

Al

[Mike Phillips]

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I noticed...

Sounds like they must have some oils in them then, as far as keeping older paints from drying out?

When it comes to restoring antique, original single stage paints, our new products will definitely cut better than M80, in fact I buffed out an oxidized single stage paint with M105 on a wool pad with a rotary buffer on Sunday and after the M105 step it looked like new paint.

I did however use the M80 for a second step process with my DA because I wanted to introduce the polishing oils in this product to the freshly opened up paint.

Sealed with M21 and stuck a fork in it because it's done.

Don't think you'll see products like M80 or #7 or #3 or even M81 go way anytime soon and these products are all very rich in Meguiar's polishing oils that work so well to bring out the full richness of color in older single stage paints.

If I ever here a product like M80 is going to be axed I'll post this right away because my favorite thing to do is to restore antique single stage paints on classic and special interest cars and because this is my go-to product for paints like these I would be the first to stock up.

[Murr1525]

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Thanks Mike.

Have to work on some more deep thoughts for when they get back....

[Mike Phillips]

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I noticed...

Sounds like they must have some oils in them then, as far as keeping older paints from drying out?

Don't now about that, will have to check. M105 and M205 were purposefully developed without out any fillers or any ingredient some of the uniformed on those other forums would try to position as a filler. The results you see are the the real deal. Remember, Jason Rose who is in charge of the development of our Professional Line works closely with R&D and is a perfectionist by nature and has a long history as a professional detailer as do many of our Pro employees, they know what's what and they know what's posted on other forums and they definitely know how to walk the talk.

Mike Pennington, Jeff Brown and others working behind the scenes here at Meguiar's were also involved with these new products and all of these people have forgotten more than most of us including myself will ever know.

Let's let our development team have their fun at SEMA and NACE and when they get back next week they'll be available for the deep questions... for right now I can only do my best with the information I have and any first hand experience gained from using and testing a few of these new products.

[Nappers]

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Wow, if DC1 is going away Ill have to stock up! One bottle does me a long time so 3-4 bottles should last me many years.

Why stock up? Get the new and better stuff....

Just some things we all like and can't part with

I really liked the heavy duty carpet/upholstery cleaner and APC/APC+ work just as well or better, I liked it though and stocked up and down to my last bottle. I do use APC though.

[Murr1525]

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Why stock up? Get the new and better stuff....

[Jeepster04]

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Wow, if DC1 is going away Ill have to stock up! One bottle does me a long time so 3-4 bottles should last me many years.

[Murr1525]

Re: Cleaner/Polishes

I noticed...

Sounds like they must have some oils in them then, as far as keeping older paints from drying out?

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Cleaner/Polishes

And is DC1 still around?

DC1 is still around, but with the introduction of these new scratch and swirl mark removers it's likely going to be discontinued and if you notice, the labels on DC Polish and Carnauba no longer have the "Step" labeling on them.

[Mike Phillips]

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So are the new Consumer Line products (ScratchX, SwirlX, Ultra Compound) and #105 cleaners only, and the Finishing Polish is a cleaner/polish?

These products all finish out so nicely that the work like the way in which most people are familiar with how a cleaner/polish works, that is they remove the defects and then finish out to a clear, high gloss finish.

The really good news is in most cases, at least in each case I've used these products, to date I've never experienced the hazing or micro-marring problems that you'll sometimes with our cleaner/polishes when used with a DA Polisher.

Now that's good news and BIG news.

The M105/M205 Twins are going to decimate the competition.

(You can quote me on this)

[Murr1525]

So are the new Consumer Line products (ScratchX, SwirlX, Ultra Compund) and #105 cleaners only, and the Finishing Polish is a cleaner/polish?

Thanks.

Edit: And is DC1 still around?

Mat