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  • New to claying...leftover residue?

    Hey folks,

    New user here and have enjoyed the wealth of knowledge on this site.

    I tried to make this as detailed as I could:

    This past Tuesday night I thought "what the heck, I'll try to claybar just a bit of my car to see what the fuss is about."

    I have the Smooth Surface Clay Kit. After reading the instructions, I fully cleaned (with Meg's Gold Class & the 2-bucket method) and dried properly (with a Cobra waffle-weave MF towel) roughly half of my hood.

    I have an '07 Galaxy Grey Honda Civic and am (for lack of a better word) anal with washing, drying, etc. Prior to claying, the car had very, very minimal fine clearcoat scratches on it and only on paricular parts (hood, trunklid) - the kind that just 'come naturally' with the normal wear-and-tear of washing & drying. Also, my car hadn't had ANY paint treatment yet (no clay, polish, wax) apart from weekly/biweekly washing (I'm the only person to touch my car).

    I had a MF towel on-hand and the Meg's Quick Detailer that came with the clay kit. I prepped a small piece of clay and very liberally sprayed about a 2' x 2' section of the hood. With very light pressure (I figured I'd start light and increase pressure if need be) I clayed that area, going back and forth, up & down, in all directions, making sure to keep the QD on the hood plenty. The clay slid across the area very smoothly - clay didn't 'catch' on the hood. I didn't have much resid

    After I finished (probably after about 45-60 seconds), I checked the clay and although there was not much contiminants at all on the clay, the paint felt a lot smoother. I didn't wipe the area down with a MF towel but I did wash the hood area again to get the QD off and dried it.

    The following day it was nice & sunny and I noticed some markings going from L to R across the hood in the area that I clayed.

    Initially I thought: "aw, what the heck?!" then I perused these forums and thought it might be clay residue but I'm not sure.

    I didn't do any other work on the paint post-claying (i.e. paint cleaner, polish, wax) because I didn't think one had to immediately after claying. I thought that I'd do all the post-claying steps when I had time to fully wash & dry the whole car.

    Yesterday i thought it may've been some clay residue so I washed/dried it but the marks were still there. The paint doesn't feel any diff but the marks are definitely still there.

    To note: I have some NXT 2.0, #83, #80, Swirl Remover 2.0, and a PC7424.

    My friend suggested cleaning the area again tonite and tossing on some NXT 2.0 to see if that would hide these marks.

    *sigh*

    I'm hesitant to clay the entire car until I get this figured out

    o_0

    Any thoughts/questions/comments?
    Paint cleaner?
    #80?
    Swirl Remover 2.0?
    NXT 2.0?
    All?
    None?

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    Re: New to claying...leftover residue?

    Well, without pictures (I know, everyone says this!) it is hard to tell..but I do know that the "residue" left over from claying can at times be a little bit stubborn to remove.

    However washing it like you said you did should have removed them. I am a bit boggled here as I have never had any discernable damage (esp not like what you are describing) from a mild clay on a properly cleaned surface before.

    Any chance you can get some close-ups?

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    • #3
      Re: New to claying...leftover residue?

      Thx for the reply.

      I will try to get close-up pics tomorrow but they probably won't be up 'til tomorrow evening.


      P.S. Hmmmm...I wanted this to be in the 'Detailing 101' forum *shrug* oh well.

      P.P.S.Mods, would be it be possible to move this thread?

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      • #4
        Re: New to claying...leftover residue?

        Hey DJ,

        You need to wipe off the QD after you clay each section. Don't let the QD dry in large areas, especially when using so much QD as when you are claying. You don't need to press to hard on the clay. It should just glide across the surface of the car. It sounds like you may have been pushing to hard on the clay. While you were doing this, were you wearing out the clay? Were your fingers pushing through to the other side?

        Andy
        101impala
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        • #5
          Re: New to claying...leftover residue?

          1. I'm pretty confident the QD didn't dry on any panel - - washed/dried almost immediately after finishing claying

          2. Didn't press hard on the clay at all. I used very little pressure - maybe 1-2 pounds tops. Enough pressure to keep it between my fingers & the hood.

          3. Clay wasn't wearing out in the least. It looked similar (shape- & thickness-wise) when I was finished to what it had looked like just moments before when I prepared it for use.

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          • #6
            Re: New to claying...leftover residue?

            Out of curiosity, were you working in direct sunlight or shade?

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            • #7
              Re: New to claying...leftover residue?

              Shade ...car had been there for about 30 min (did it at around 7:30 pm)

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              • #8
                Re: New to claying...leftover residue?

                Originally posted by DJJeffMills View Post
                Thx for the reply.

                I will try to get close-up pics tomorrow but they probably won't be up 'til tomorrow evening.

                Often times at our Saturday classes when we have new people claying for the first time they get clay smudges usually from not using enough lubricant and moving their hand too slowly which enables the clay to stick to the paint at the end of your throw, (your hand motion).

                Often times these people panic or freak out, not sure why but we gently wipe the smudge off using a clean microfiber and calm returns.

                If they are smudges then a gentle wipe should remove them.

                You could also take the M09 and apply a little by hand to one of the affected areas, then wipe off the residue and inspect.

                If this fixes one area, then it will fix all the areas. Let us know what happens.


                Also, after claying your paint is naked so to speak and you need to at least apply some wax.


                Originally posted by DJJeffMills View Post

                P.P.S.Mods, would be it be possible to move this thread?
                We'll move it...

                Mike Phillips
                760-515-0444
                showcargarage@gmail.com

                "Find something you like and use it often"

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                • #9
                  Re: New to claying...leftover residue?

                  Originally posted by Mike Phillips View Post
                  If they are smudges then a gentle wipe should remove them.
                  They stuck around when wiping it with a MF towel and also after washing.

                  Originally posted by Mike Phillips View Post
                  You could also take the M09 and apply a little by hand to one of the affected areas, then wipe off the residue and inspect.

                  If this fixes one area, then it will fix all the areas. Let us know what happens.
                  I'll toss on some SW 2.0 and report back.



                  Originally posted by Mike Phillips View Post
                  Also, after claying your paint is naked so to speak and you need to at least apply some wax.
                  I'll try the M09 and hopefully *crosses fingers* it fixes the issue. Then I'll apply some of the NXT 2.0 and see what that does.


                  Originally posted by Mike Phillips View Post
                  We'll move it...
                  Athanku

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                  • #10
                    Re: New to claying...leftover residue?

                    Update: I tried Meg's #09 (SW 2.0) on half the area (taped it off to see the results) and all the (mild) scratches were removed Very happy/impressed.

                    I only hope these scratches don't occur on all panels when I clay the entire car.

                    One possible reason they appeared came to me last nite:
                    Perhaps when I got it prepped before pick-up last October, the monkeys who put on a wax (or whatever dealerships use) caused those scratches (gotta love dealer-installed swirls/scratches). The reason being: the light scratches were going left to right (when looking @ the car) but when I clayed I went left/right, up/down, circular, diagonal (all with tons of QD as I've read that when used properly (key word) clay won't harm paint in the least)...if the scratches were my fault they should've been in more of a random pattern, mimicking the directions I went with the claybar, no? Maybe when I clayed I removed the wax they put on last Oct and revealed these left/right scratches on the hood.

                    Bottom line: scratches = gone. Thx everyone for all the help

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                    • #11
                      Re: New to claying...leftover residue?

                      We love to hear success stories!

                      Mike Phillips
                      760-515-0444
                      showcargarage@gmail.com

                      "Find something you like and use it often"

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