Paste, Liquid and the NXT 2.0 longevity debate

[3Fitty]

I've seen these topics in different places, but they've been pretty piecemeal so I wanted to see if anyone could point me to some definitive responses. Here are some questions I have...

1. What is MEGUIAR's official position on the Paste vs. Liquid debate? Sorry Joe Blow, but I don't want to know YOUR opinion, I want the MEGUIAR'S opinion! Could someone send me a link from a Meguair's detailer or staffer or someone in the know?

2. What are the above opinions based upon? Has there ever been any tests on longevity, protection, shine etc...?

3. Has any member done a NXT vs. NXT 2.0 longevity test? If so, can someone point me to the results? If not, I am going to undertake a test (front hood) half on each side. Although I LOVE all of my Meguiar's products, I'm ALWAYS a skeptic about marketing. You know, every company has to reinvent itself as a means of keeping sales up.

With regard to #3, it always amazed me about Meguiar's... I've been using the stuff since 1992 and I always thought... "while I love the product, they have the ugliest looking packaging". LOL

Then, along comes the NXT line of products and the packaging was SO GOOD, I got a bit worried the Meg's may have sold out to the marketing guru's at the products expense. Luckily that does not seem to be the case, although I'm 100% certain the NXT packaging has a LOT to do with sales. Looking at the product on the store shelf just makes you want to buy it all up!

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Paste, Liquid and the NXT 2.0 longevity debate

1. What is MEGUIAR's official position on the Paste vs. Liquid debate? Sorry Joe Blow, but I don't want to know YOUR opinion, I want the MEGUIAR'S opinion! Could someone send me a link from a Meguiar's detailer or staffer or someone in the know?

Here's some good reading for everyone,

Meguiar's Frequently Asked Questions

Check out this one,


4. Which is type of wax is better, a paste wax or a liquid wax?

The difference between paste and liquid wax is primarily one of convenience and personal preference. Meguiar's liquid formulas provide the same protection as paste, and are easier and faster to apply. That said, there is something about spending a Saturday afternoon, leisurely applying a traditional paste wax to your pride and joy that people find both enjoyable and rewarding. This is especially true when the results from their efforts reflect their passion with an eye dazzling shine that makes passersby stop and look… and then look again.

2. What are the above opinions based upon? Has there ever been any tests on longevity, protection, shine etc...?

We based the above answer on information provided to us by the people that create the formulas, that is our our own in house chemists.

[3Fitty]

Re: Paste, Liquid and the NXT 2.0 longevity debate

Perfect. Thanks Mike.

As for #3, if I don't get any takers, I'm going to conduct my own test and I'll post results online (and video maybe on youtube).

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Paste, Liquid and the NXT 2.0 longevity debate

Perfect. Thanks Mike.

As for #3, if I don't get any takers, I'm going to conduct my own test and I'll post results online (and video maybe on youtube).

Go for it!

We want you to be happy!

[Jeepster04]

Re: Paste, Liquid and the NXT 2.0 longevity debate

Right now I have #16 on half of my hood and NXT2.0 on the other half. Its only been two weeks but you can guess which I like better!

Ill give you a hint, 4^2! Ive got to buy me some more of this stuff!

[3Fitty]

Re: Paste, Liquid and the NXT 2.0 longevity debate

Right now I have #16 on half of my hood and NXT2.0 on the other half. Its only been two weeks but you can guess which I like better!

Ill give you a hint, 4^2! Ive got to buy me some more of this stuff!

What are you noticing in terms of how they are holding up and your paints finish?

[Mark2]

Re: Paste, Liquid and the NXT 2.0 longevity debate

The new is way better. It felt like the look and slick feel I got with the old one was gone in a wash or two. The 2.0 holds up and feels like I just waxed (even slicker than the old version) even many weeks after. And the paint feels slicker and smoother than with any wax or sealant I have tried earlier. And the application and removal is very easy also.

[Jeepster04]

Re: Paste, Liquid and the NXT 2.0 longevity debate

What are you noticing in terms of how they are holding up and your paints finish?

Look, feel, and beading.

My mom, which by all means doesnt know a whole lot about detailing, could tell a difference between the NXT2.0 and #16. She just happened to walk outside once I was done and right away pointed to the side with #16 on it.

After two weeks the beading was cut down on with the 2.0(still beads good though) but #16 looked like it was applied the day before. I took it to the coin-op and used the rinse only option. The side with #16 practically cleaned itself but v2 still had a light flim on it.

Its been said that #16 lasted up to 5 months but we will see. I usually lay down a coat of wax at least every 3months so I dont need something that lasts that long!

[Ticman]

Re: Paste, Liquid and the NXT 2.0 longevity debate

The new is way better. It felt like the look and slick feel I got with the old one was gone in a wash or two. The 2.0 holds up and feels like I just waxed (even slicker than the old version) even many weeks after. And the paint feels slicker and smoother than with any wax or sealant I have tried earlier. And the application and removal is very easy also.

I did the side by side test on the hood of my truck and pretty much found the same as Mark2. The NXT 2.0 was more clear and dark looking than the old NXT. (Think deep gloss shine) I only went about 5 weeks before waxing the whole truck with 2.0 but I really think the 2.0 is better.

Tic

[3Fitty]

Re: Paste, Liquid and the NXT 2.0 longevity debate

Its been said that #16 lasted up to 5 months but we will see. I usually lay down a coat of wax at least every 3months so I dont need something that lasts that long!

Which is #16???

[BigLeegr]

Re: Paste, Liquid and the NXT 2.0 longevity debate

Meguiar's #16 is a paste wax that has been discontinued.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Paste, Liquid and the NXT 2.0 longevity debate

For more info on M16 do a search here,

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/search.php

Type in the word

M1611

[jfelbab]

Re: Paste, Liquid and the NXT 2.0 longevity debate

NXT 2.0 going on three months. Looks great, beads water profusely and feels slick. Nice! While NXT 1.0 was the best protecting product according the Meguiar's chemists, the stunning looks would often fade faster than the protection. The 2.0 product fixes that. The stunning good look lasts and lasts.

This is the best OTC LSP I've used PERIOD.

Meguiar's also solved the occasional streaking in high heat and humidity issue with the 2.0 product.

I am a paste wax lover and have been so for 45 years. I have to say though that with NXT, I prefer the liquid. I seems that the paste requires more attention to apply a thin even coat than the liquid. Not that it is hard to do but it is just not as easy as the liquid. I get the same looks and durability from either format.

[Forever New]

Re: Paste, Liquid and the NXT 2.0 longevity debate

on a completely side note, I love the MR2 in your Avatar, my g/f and I have two of them here and we head up the FL MR2 owners club www.flmr2s.com .

Oh and I like the liquid NXT 2.0 myself as well.

[jfelbab]

Re: Paste, Liquid and the NXT 2.0 longevity debate

on a completely side note, I love the MR2 in your Avatar, my g/f and I have two of them here and we head up the FL MR2 owners club www.flmr2s.com .

Oh and I like the liquid NXT 2.0 myself as well.

Well thank you. I love my 2. I bought it new in November of 1990 and have 128,000 miles on it. It was a daily driver for 12 years and a garage queen ever since. No door dings, no dents, no rust and it drives like a new car. Toyota did a fine job on these 2's.

Nice website BTW.