which one do you guys use, side to side or over lapping circular

[dave40co]

Re: which one do you guys use, side to side or over lapping circular

I do not post often, but read what you people write and rely on your expertise to get my cars looking as good as I can at my age and without a DA. I have learned a lot and find it funny that the method I have used for years to wash and wax have been wrong! I was always told that my cars looked the best in the neighborhood.

I also agree about Danny, however, as a father to a 15 and 19 year old, I do understand that sometimes they may say things that are a little out of line! It was the same between me and my Father! With my kids, I have to sometimes go over what they are saying several times until they understand the true meaning so they "get it" and understand the implications their words may have on people. Danny is a very intense and attentive kid when it comes to his ride and probably in other areas of his life. That is a great and wonderful trait and he probably forgot about the etiquette and protocol expected out of him on this forum. I am sure that as he matures in wisdom he will see the errors of his way and correct it as my children have! No, I am not a shrink and I don't play one on T.V., I am humbly, just a Dad!

B.T.W. As I learned long ago, the circular overlapping application is the way I roll!

Hey Mike Phillips! Thanks for all the info and hard work you do to maintain and moderate this forum. It is a pleasure to be a part of!

[PorscheGuy997]

Re: which one do you guys use, side to side or over lapping circular

Yup, he was banned - says under his name. He was nowhere near as bad as one member on Tweaktown Forums. This guy claimed that he had 9200 rpm and 1100 rpm hard drives and he repeatedly claimed that a S478 Pentium is equal to a new Core 2 Duo. Plus he insulted me (claimed he blew me up using 25 grams of c4 ???) and the moderators - a big no no.

Anyways, my method of application usually depends on the product. If it is a cleaner, I work it in using many overlapping circles. I would usually go over it atleast 6 times when the product was still wet. I used quite a bit of passion to thoroughly clean the paint. For polishes, I overlapped maybe once or twice, but I used some faster circles with less pressure. I hardly use any pressure when I wax. I usually overlap once or twice. Then, I got a PC...

It usually depends on how much time I have left to complete the detail. It depends on the level of perfection - for example a show car. It also depends on the original condition of the paint - I use more passion with a paint cleaner if the paint is exceptionally oxidized or scratched up.

[gb387]

Re: which one do you guys use, side to side or over lapping circular

So the kid got banned?

If so I understand after reading many post over the past few weeks.

I agree with RamAir!

[SL1CK]

Re: which one do you guys use, side to side or over lapping circular

So the kid got banned?

[RamAirV1]

Re: which one do you guys use, side to side or over lapping circular

Danny, you should have heeded my warning....

Blaming the MOL member (JMatt) above for not understanding you is inappropriate. Instead of simply apologizing for your tone, you chose to blame others for not understanding you.

You create a very argumentative atmosphere which is something that is not tolerated here on MOL. Further, you have been warned several times as well as given "time outs" in hopes that before you returned that you would have spent time doing some self reflection in the way people communicate on Internet Forums. People on MOL are only here to help, and I have yet to hear a negative comment about not getting help.

I wish to direct you to the following which you have broken repeatedly:


Meguiar's Online Member Rules!

1. No personal attacks toward members or non-members will be tolerated.

2. No arguing with Moderators or Administrators.

3. You are welcome to disagree but you must be polite.

4. No bashing any company or their products. No bashing other people. If you can't say anything nice about someone, then don't say anything at all.

5. Keep language "G Rated", this includes insinuations. If you wouldn't say it in front of your grandparents, your parents or your children, then you shouldn't probably be posting to the Meguiar's Online forum.


9. Continuously breaking the rules to disrupt the Online community will result in you being banned from the forum with little or no warning.


So after being given the benefit of the doubt on numerous occasions, you continue to post in an inappropriate manner for MOL. Mike and I have both warned you and have given you multiple chances but alas, you have given me no choice as noted above in Forum Rule #9

Tim

Thanks to the MOL mods for keeping this a family friendly forum and a great place to hang out! I visit several other automotive forums and they could learn a great deal from MOL!

RamAirV1

[Mike Pennington]

Re: which one do you guys use, side to side or over lapping circular

The theory is that if you use a side to side motion, and you "happen" to induce swirls for some reason, they would be less visible. You would only see them from certain angles. If you wipe in circles the swirls, and have the misfortune of inducing swirls, they would be visible from any angle. Swirl would have 360 degrees so you can view it more easily. Still, it is better not to induce the swirls in the first place.

Wiping in a circle, in and of itself, does not induce swirls if you are using the right product and application material. You would have to have some kind of contaminant and/or an abrasive product (or applicator) to induce swirls.

RamAirV1

Well said !!!



Mike

[RamAirV1]

Re: which one do you guys use, side to side or over lapping circular

The theory is that if you use a side to side motion, and you "happen" to induce swirls for some reason, they would be less visible. You would only see them from certain angles. If you wipe in circles the swirls, and have the misfortune of inducing swirls, they would be visible from any angle. Swirl would have 360 degrees so you can view it more easily. Still, it is better not to induce the swirls in the first place.

Wiping in a circle, in and of itself, does not induce swirls if you are using the right product and application material. You would have to have some kind of contaminant and/or an abrasive product (or applicator) to induce swirls.

RamAirV1

[Coupe]

Re: which one do you guys use, side to side or over lapping circular

This is one that could go on forever. I have been of the theory that you go with the lines of the body of the car, so yes, side to side. I was always told that anytime you go in circles you promote swirl, even if it's a great product and proper application material. But if I'm trying to avoid the buffer and work on problem spots, it's circular.

That dont make any sense though. If what your saying was remotely true you would have straight line marring instead of circular marring. In other words it would make no difference which way you do it becuase you would end up with marring either way.

[doctorfro]

Re: which one do you guys use, side to side or over lapping circular

This is one that could go on forever. I have been of the theory that you go with the lines of the body of the car, so yes, side to side. I was always told that anytime you go in circles you promote swirl, even if it's a great product and proper application material. But if I'm trying to avoid the buffer and work on problem spots, it's circular.

[Coupe]

Re: which one do you guys use, side to side or over lapping circular

I dont use a *technique*, i just make sure i have an even thin coating. How i get that even thin coating depends on the product, applicator and panel. Its never the same.

[Tim Lingor]

Re: which one do you guys use, side to side or over lapping circular

New people join every day, each day the way people do things changes a little, i wanted to make an updated poll to see what people use. Its kind of like wanting to know what people think of a cretin race, you take a current poll, you dont study a poll that was taken some time ago, this is an extreme case i am just using it as a example, see what im saying?

Danny, you should have heeded my warning....

Blaming the MOL member (JMatt) above for not understanding you is inappropriate. Instead of simply apologizing for your tone, you chose to blame others for not understanding you.

You create a very argumentative atmosphere which is something that is not tolerated here on MOL. Further, you have been warned several times as well as given "time outs" in hopes that before you returned that you would have spent time doing some self reflection in the way people communicate on Internet Forums. People on MOL are only here to help, and I have yet to hear a negative comment about not getting help.

I wish to direct you to the following which you have broken repeatedly:


Meguiar's Online Member Rules!

1. No personal attacks toward members or non-members will be tolerated.

2. No arguing with Moderators or Administrators.

3. You are welcome to disagree but you must be polite.

4. No bashing any company or their products. No bashing other people. If you can't say anything nice about someone, then don't say anything at all.

5. Keep language "G Rated", this includes insinuations. If you wouldn't say it in front of your grandparents, your parents or your children, then you shouldn't probably be posting to the Meguiar's Online forum.


9. Continuously breaking the rules to disrupt the Online community will result in you being banned from the forum with little or no warning.


So after being given the benefit of the doubt on numerous occasions, you continue to post in an inappropriate manner for MOL. Mike and I have both warned you and have given you multiple chances but alas, you have given me no choice as noted above in Forum Rule #9

Tim

[Thejoyofdriving]

Re: which one do you guys use, side to side or over lapping circular

Like Mike suggested, please peruse the Hot Topics as well as use the Search function. After that, we will be happy to answer your questions.

Tim

New people join every day, each day the way people do things changes a little, i wanted to make an updated poll to see what people use. Its kind of like wanting to know what people think of a cretin race, you take a current poll, you dont study a poll that was taken some time ago, this is an extreme case i am just using it as a example, see what im saying?

[Thejoyofdriving]

Re: which one do you guys use, side to side or over lapping circular

This is the first and last of your posts I'll respond to. Tone not appreciated.

First of all, i was not intending to sound harsh or aggressive. YOU interpret they things i say in your head, so to YOU it may sound alike a harsh tone, but that is not the way that i was intending it, so please take it the way i meant to say it, verses the way it sounds in your head. since we are all typing here try to think more about it before you feel hurt or offended, you cant hear the tone of my voice or my facial expressions, which we use to determine how a person is saying some thing. If i say for example "you're smart", you could take that as a complement or an insult. See what im saying?

[Michael Stoops]

Re: which one do you guys use, side to side or over lapping circular

If I'm doing a spot polish, which usually means hard to reach areas that the PC can't get to, then I use a vigorous back & forth motion. Generally I'm using ScratchX in an application like this, otherwise I'm using the DA.

When applying wax I use overlapping circular for the most part. Some panel areas are tighter and I find an overlapping back & forth works best. I also go in a linear movement around panel gaps - like where the door and fender meet - to minimize the amount of product that might get caught on the panel edge and start to build up. But the only wax I apply by hand any more is #16, otherwise I'm using the DA.

[JMatt]

Re: which one do you guys use, side to side or over lapping circular

i just wanted to know what people like to use. I never said any thing about a cretin style imparting scratches, like i said it is personal preference. I hate when i try to see what people like to use and people end up saying stuff that gives me a hard time, i just want to know what YOU use, thank you.

1) I answered your question
2) I followed up by explaining my rationale. That is, I told you exactly what I like to use.
3) I pointed out that Meguiar's - the owner/sponsor of the site - teaches us that it doesn't technically matter.

I come back hours later to read your response.

This is the first and last of your posts I'll respond to. Tone not appreciated.