Tires turning brown

[dragonballz]

What causes it?

It doesnt matter what kind of dressing i use, parts of the tire eventually returns back to brown. I've used Meg's shiny tire foam, Black Magic Matte Tire Finish.... it doesnt matter.

I dont think it's dirty because when i swipe my finger across it, there's no dirt on my finger.

[Nappers]

Re: Tires turning brown

I've had a set of tires do the same thing and thought I saw a write up on it on this site or the old one and pretty much contributed to the tire itself, nothing you did.

I was able to get it "okay" by using a decent cleaner and clean the snot out of it and dress it.

Although not Meguiar's, Eagle One makes a decent All Wheel-Tire cleaner I use a lot and readily available to clean the tires really good.

I recently tried APC about 7:1 ratio and the tires cleaned up nice and will be my go to product for that (now that I finally bought some).

[HemiMopar]

Re: Tires turning brown

That is a natural process of tires. It has something added to the rubber in it which keeps them from rotting. Over time it will move itself out to the surface. You can never remove it only hide it with tire dressing.

[Andy M.]

Re: Tires turning brown

That is a natural process of tires. It has something added to the rubber in it which keeps them from rotting. Over time it will move itself out to the surface. You can never remove it only hide it with tire dressing.

It is called "blooming". Let me see if I can find something on it.

Here you go:
Why are Tires Black?


Andy

[03mach1]

Re: Tires turning brown

rubber is not naturally black and they dye the tires black. Because i remeber being told by a auto museum guy that the old tires on really old cars that there tires were not black because they did not dye them in the old days.

[J. A. Michaels]

Re: Tires turning brown

It is called "blooming". Let me see if I can find something on it.

Here you go:
Why are Tires Black?


Andy

Just keep them clean and use a protectorent on them. You will be fine.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Tires turning brown

Do a search using this word,

Antiozonant

or this word,

Blooming


Also this recent thread,

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26820

And an excerpt from it...

From the FAQ here,

http://meguiars.com/faq/index.cfm?fa...ection=_59#_59

Most people don't give a lot of thought to their tires except for how they look. Truth be known, your tires are designed to perform under extreme conditions of heat via kinetic energy transfer, high speeds for long periods of time and incredible forces of torque and flexing. That's a lot to ask from a chunk of rubber, inflated with air like a cream filled donut.

The science behind the modern rubber formulas used by major tire manufactures today is both complex and interesting. The rubber itself contains and ingredient called Antiozonant.

Antiozonant is an ingredient that helps to prevent the exterior rubber surface from cracking, checking, oxidizing, and deteriorating. The rubber is designed in such a way as to constantly work its way to the outside of the tire and as such, continually replenish the exterior surface with fresh antiozonant.

After the antiozonant works its way to the outside of the tire and is exposed to the ozone in the air, it turns brown. The technical term for this effect is blooming.

This is why you see a brown film on the surface your tires. You can wash your tires with soap or an all-purpose cleaner and remove this film, but in a few weeks, it's back. That's because the antiozonant continually works its way to the outside of the tires every time you drive your car.

Thus before applying a dressing you really need to do a thorough job of cleaning the outer surface of the tire to remove any spent antiozonants as well as any previously applied dressing and this will prepare the rubber to accept a fresh application of tire dressing.


Meguiar's Tire Dressing Options
To maintain your tires and keep them looking sharp with a deep, dark black color, Meguiar's offers six unique tire dressings that treat the rubber with Meguiar's own special conditioning agents as well as patented antiozonants that replenish your tires' original antiozonants and keep your tires looking blacker longer than generic tire dressings and protectants.

Special polymers actually penetrate and cure to the surface to form a long lasting barrier-film that protects your tires from inclement weather and exposure to corrosive elements. These include:

Hot Shine Tire Spray (Trigger Spray) High gloss formula turns tires a dark black with high shine
Hot Shine delivers a high gloss shine in an aerosol or trigger application. Highly water-resistant polymers combined with antiozonant technology keep tires looking blacker longer, while preventing cracking, browning, and premature aging. The high gloss formula gives your tires a “wet-look” with a dark shine.

G12032 ..... $6.99
32 ounce spray bottle

G12024 ..... $6.49
24 ounce spray bottle



Hot Shine High Gloss Tire Gel
Meguiar's® Hot Shine Tire Gel delivers long-lasting, intense shine without annoying overspray, drips or mess! The smooth, concentrated gel application delivers consistent results for even gloss and deep shine. Engineered to reduce sling, the advanced gel formula helps protect against tire fading and cracking to ensure tires always look hot!

G12416 ..... $5.99
16 ounce bottle



Insane Shine Tire Spray
G13124 Insane Shine Tire Spray delivers the ultimate in high gloss for tires a deep, dark, "insane wet look." Our spray on and walk away formula delivers a high gloss shine. Our Engineered Synthetic Polymers create a protective barrier that helps prevent browning, cracking and premature aging.

G13124 ..... $6.99
24 ounce spray bottle



NXT Generation Insane Shine Tire Coating
NXT Generation Insane Shine Tire Coating is the ULTIMATE in high gloss for tires - a deep, dark, insane wet look that is fast and easy just spray and walk away. Engineered Synthetic Polymers (ESP) combined with specially designed antiozonants create a mirror-like shine that prevents browning and premature aging.

G13115 ..... $7.59
15 ounce aerosol can



Hot Shine High Gloss Tire Coating (Aerosol Spray)
Hot Shine's high gloss formula gives your tires a wet-look with a dark shine. By combining highly water-resistant polymers with antiozonant technology, Hot Shine keeps your tires looking blacker longer while preventing cracking, browning and premature aging. Available in a 15 oz. aerosol or 24 oz. trigger spray
G13815 ..... $6.49
15 ounce aerosol can



Hot Shine Tire Foam
G13919 Hot Shine Tire Foam. Our new foam technology breaks clear on the tire (with no milky mess) leaving a deep, black, rich shine. In one easy step, the thick, luxurious foam coats the tire, quickly penetrates, lifts and releases dirt and road grime leaving behind an even, rich shine.

G13919 ..... $5.49
19 ounce aerosol can



Gold Class Endurance Original Formula
Endurance® continues to be a favorite among enthusiasts looking for extra long lasting performance with a great look. Our unique formulations stop tires from turning brown and eliminate the mess of overspray, drips, streaks and spotted driveways.

G7410 ..... $8.69
10 ounce bottle that comes in a box with one applicator



Gold Class Endurance High Gloss
Endurance® continues to be a favorite among enthusiasts looking for extra long lasting performance with a great look. Our unique formulations stop tires from turning brown and eliminate the mess of overspray, drips, streaks and spotted driveways. 16 oz. High Gloss Gel.

G7516 ..... $7.59
16 ounce bottle


Second, the Sun is a major contributor to drying out and cracking anything, both the visible sun rays, (light), and the invisible sun rays emitted by the sun.

Besides the rays then theirs the heat created by the sun to the surface and the environment. The worst areas for drying and cracking are places were the tires are exposed the extreme sun for a majority of the year. For example out here in the desert where I live the sun pretty much deteriorates everything that's not covered up and protected.

Goes with the territory.

Meguiar's tests all their products to be safe for the surface they are formulated to be used on as long as the products are used according to directions.

[dragonballz]

Re: Tires turning brown

Thanks guys. I had no idea there was a word for it.

Does meguiars have a Matte Finish type product? I started out using Meguiars Tire Foam but then i thought i'd try Black Magic's Matte Tire Finish. Meg's Foam made it really shiny and wet. The BM Matte product dries to the touch after a couple of minutes and makes the tire look like it was brand new. Ive been using the Matte finish ever since.

If meguiars has something like that, i'd like to try it

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Tires turning brown

M40 is very popular as a tire dressing that leaves a flat matte finish. It's in our Professional Line.

Mirror Glaze Vinyl&Rubber Cleaner

[dragonballz]

Re: Tires turning brown

Thanks Mike

[roushstage2]

Re: Tires turning brown

M40 is very popular as a tire dressing that leaves a flat matte finish. It's in our Professional Line.

Mirror Glaze Vinyl&Rubber Cleaner

Too bad M38 died

Guess it is a good thing I have 2 bottles of it!

[Alfisti]

Re: Tires turning brown

Guess it is a good thing I have 2 bottles of it!

Don't tell Mike Phillips that...he'll want to buy them off you!

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Tires turning brown

Don't tell Mike Phillips that...he'll want to buy them off you!

I still have some M38 in good condition and I just let it sit in my collection of discontinued products. I've been applying whatever I have laying around on my current tires just to use it up.

When I mount these babies on the Jimmy,




I'm only going to use Hyper-Dressing on them. Will try spraying them with a thinned down version or using a paint brush to get around all the lugs/designs on the sidewalls.

At least that's the plan...

[VonLego]

Re: Tires turning brown

If you have a standard shiney wheel dressing, try wiping it down 10 minutes later with a old rag. It tends to tone the shine down, and prevents sling (if your tires have the problem)

[jmeyers278]

Re: Tires turning brown

I have been using Griot's rubber cleaner for some time now and it works amazingly. Clean the tire well with Griot's rubber cleaner and shine, or matte, with whatever product you like and you will get alot of extra time between applications.