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**The Guz** · Mar 2, 2017, 11:08 PM

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Definitely too many protection products. White paint is not going to give you that deep look like a dark colored vehicle with wax. Trust me I know as my Camaro is white.

A DA polisher is definitely worth the investment. Saves time and produces better results than by hand. You can pick one up at a later date.

New cars can come with what is known as DISO (Dealer Installed Swirled Option). There is an article if you use google on this topic.

Here is what I would do

Wash
Clay
Ultimate Polish
Ultimate Fast Finish

Skip the gold class wax. I would go with ultimate fast finish as your form of protection. I prefer the shine and gloss it gives paint compared to ultimate wax. It is also the top form of protection currently offered by Meguiar's. It meets your criteria in being long lasting as Meguiar's claims a 1 year longevity. Ultimate Wax would be the next option. You can maintain either with ultimate quik wax. With fast finish you can apply another coat down the line as it is so easy to use.

If you go with ultimate wax and apply UFF over it, the longevity of UFF would more than likely be impacted as it is not bonding to the paint but rather over another product. Although doable.

It's just so easy to apply UFF and quick.

**Jtepn87** · Mar 3, 2017, 03:55 PM

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Thank you. I know the deep look on white is nearly impossible, just thought it may be worth a try while the car is new.

**The Guz** · Mar 3, 2017, 08:41 PM

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Give it a try with UFF as your base level of protection. Nick has this great article about UFF.

In it he states that the car was sealed with UW and then UFF.

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?65527-Using-Meguiar-s-Ultimate-Fast-Finish&p=578757#mvO2p1VUw10kkqum.97

**Jtepn87** · Mar 3, 2017, 10:07 PM

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I stopped by the store tonight and didn't see any FF. I'll probably order some on Amazon soon. For this weekend it will be clay, UP, UW. When I get the FF in, should I clay first, or would washing then quick detail be enough prep if the UW is still good?

**Jtepn87** · Mar 3, 2017, 10:26 PM

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Another question. On a da polisher, do I need to moisten the pads with something before adding polish/wax? Or do I just apply it to a dry pad?

**The Guz** · Mar 4, 2017, 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by Jtepn87 View Post

I stopped by the store tonight and didn't see any FF. I'll probably order some on Amazon soon. For this weekend it will be clay, UP, UW. When I get the FF in, should I clay first, or would washing then quick detail be enough prep if the UW is still good?

Feel the paint with your hand after you wash. Google the baggie test. That is a good way to tell if you need to clay. Even if it is new it may still need to be clayed. I would clay.

Originally posted by Jtepn87 View Post

Another question. On a da polisher, do I need to moisten the pads with something before adding polish/wax? Or do I just apply it to a dry pad?

This link should give you an idea of how to use a DA polisher with the ultimate line up.

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?65177-How-to-Polish-like-a-Pro-with-Meguiar-s-MT300-and-Ultimate-Products(Quick-Tips-Video)#cOqQejEP23ydb1kV.97

**Jtepn87** · Mar 4, 2017, 05:10 PM

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Car came out looking great. I'll try to add pics later. Thank you again for all the help!

**Jtepn87** · Mar 4, 2017, 05:58 PM

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Having a hard time uploading to Meguiars. Here is a link to my Instagram. I uploaded a couple other pics if you want to browse. https://www.instagram.com/p/BRPKHwelSE1/

**Nick Winn** · Mar 17, 2017, 12:12 PM

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Looks great! Sorry you are having trouble uploading pictures. Feel free to post or contact me with any questions regarding this. One thing I wanted to mention is that while yes it is difficult to achieve a "wet look" on a lighter colored vehicle, what you can do is really brighten up the paint, produce some extreme high gloss & almost make it "pop." Any product with cleaning ability to it like our White Wax, Ultimate Polish, or M205 Ultra Finishing Polish, can work to provide this on light colors. A Dual Action Polisher like our MT300 can really make a big difference in achieving this. My favorite combination tends to be M205 Ultra Finishing Polish applied with one of our Soft Buff Yellow Foam Polishing Discs. White Wax does also do some serious brightening up of lighter colored paints.

Hope this helps.

- Nick

**Jtepn87** · Mar 19, 2017, 08:12 PM

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Thanks Nick. I have been able to upload pictures to my album, just haven't attached them to the thread yet. I ended up buying a da polisher and pads from Harbor Freight. I used their polishing pad with UP, and it did really brighten the paint up. I didn't notice untill parked to other white cars, and the Jeep stood out.
Does the M205 or White Wax really make a noticeable difference over the UP? Do they add more gloss or just make the white brighter? The UP did such an excellent job, I can't imagine what the car would look like being brighter and having more gloss. Also when using products like UP. Is there a way to better tell when the polish is fully worked? It's probably easier to tell on darker cars, but being a white car and my first time using the product, it would just disappear on the white. I would have to stop from time to time and change my view point so I could see what was going on. The ULW did the same, only not quite as bad as UP. Thanks again Nick and Guz.

**The Guz** · Mar 19, 2017, 10:42 PM

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Glad to hear you got good results with UP. It is actually a very good polish.

UP is derived from M205. M205 offers more correction and UP offers more polishing oils. Would one give more gloss over the other on white paint? Well I doubt you would notice a huge difference between the two. But sometimes UP can darken the pain because of those polishing oils. Some people like that and some don't.

White Wax on the other hand is a cleaner wax. Meaning it will clean, polish and protect in one step. There is some sacrifice compared to a dedicated product. White Wax does contain some pretty potent abrasives in it. It contains the same type of abrasives found in M101 compound but just less of them. So I would give the edge to white wax in terms of correcting paint. For those quick details, a cleaner wax is a good option.

With regards to the polish on white paint. I will say welcome to the world of white paint. As you have already noticed you have to move your head at various angles to look for defects or in your case remove polish residue. Roughly 5-6 passes is all you would need to work a 2 foot X 2 foot area. But the working time can change depending on the temperature and humidity.

The good thing about white paint is that it hides defects very well.

**Nick Winn** · Mar 20, 2017, 09:15 AM

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Happy to hear it worked well! Like Guz mentioned, Ultimate Polish is derived off of M205 Ultra Finishing Polish. M205 does have a more cleaning ability, which is what light colors respond well to, but it is tough to say whether you would notice a difference or not, probably not a huge difference when using these for this purpose of brightening up the light color paint.

**Jtepn87** · Mar 20, 2017, 02:01 PM

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Thanks again guys. As long as I can keep this car fairly clean, I think I will stick strictly with the Ultimate line for now. It's too good and too easy to deviate from at this point. I need to pick up some UC and try to hone my DA skills on my dads truck. Poor thing has been neglected for far too long. It's starting to rust, plus it's black. So I should be able to see what I'm doing a get a feel for using the different products.

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