Help Required ! Synthetic Sealant + Light Wax

[Ehsan4808]

2 Questions!

1st Question ) I,ll be applying Synthetic Sealant #21 on my white car tomorrow. Let me know the curing time for that. This would be the first time the car would be getting a layer of sealant. I have plans to Clay the car, then Ultimate Compound and then #21. So how long should I leave the #21 applied on the car before wiping the dried residue ? for best results.


2nd Question ) I,ve read on many forums that topping #21 with a wax adds to the gloss. I had ordered Megs Light wax for that purpose.
Now the confusion is , as light wax is a cleaner wax so if I apply it over the sealant would it do any harm to the layer of the sealant ? or it would be perfectly alright to use is over the sealant just as any synthetic wax without cleaning properties ?

Plz Help.

[C8N]

Re: Help Required ! Synthetic Sealant + Light Wax

1. Shouldn't really time things as the amount of time need to haze will depend on the weather conditions. Do a swipe test. Lightly swipe with your finger. If it smears... it will need more time. If it wipes off clean, it is ready to be taken off.
2. Do you mean white wax? If so, it is a AIO so if you put down a layer of white wax on top of #21, white wax will take off #21 so you do not want to do this. However, if you top, you do want to let #21 cure for 12hrs before topping it. But generally, 1 layer of #21 should suffice as long as you cover all areas.

[Ehsan4808]

Re: Help Required ! Synthetic Sealant + Light Wax

Thanks for the response.
What is actually called the curing time ?
The time till the dried haze is wiped off ? Or even after few hours when the dried haze is wiped off it cures for a short period of time
as per ur suggestion if i want to top it with white wax, I should wipe off the dried haze after 12 hours of its application.
Have i understood it correct ?

[jankerson]

Re: Help Required ! Synthetic Sealant + Light Wax

2 Questions!

1st Question ) I,ll be applying Synthetic Sealant #21 on my white car tomorrow. Let me know the curing time for that. This would be the first time the car would be getting a layer of sealant. I have plans to Clay the car, then Ultimate Compound and then #21. So how long should I leave the #21 applied on the car before wiping the dried residue ? for best results.


2nd Question ) I,ve read on many forums that topping #21 with a wax adds to the gloss. I had ordered Megs Light wax for that purpose.
Now the confusion is , as light wax is a cleaner wax so if I apply it over the sealant would it do any harm to the layer of the sealant ? or it would be perfectly alright to use is over the sealant just as any synthetic wax without cleaning properties ?

Plz Help.

The white wax will take off the sealant.

So it would ge better to use M21 on the car, wait 24 hours and put a 2nd coat of M21 on and you are done.

If you want to top it with a wax, wait 24 hours and then get M26, it's a pure wax.

[C8N]

Re: Help Required ! Synthetic Sealant + Light Wax

Curing time is after the wax has been wiped off.
My suggestion would be
Wash
Clay
UC
White Wax
Wait 12hrs
#21

[Ehsan4808]

Re: Help Required ! Synthetic Sealant + Light Wax

Curing time is after the wax has been wiped off.
My suggestion would be
Wash
Clay
UC
White Wax
Wait 12hrs
#21

Thanks Bro! I,ll follow ur instructions.
Which means that the sealant would be properly bonded to the surface if I wait for 12+ hours after the application of white wax.. Right ?
Thats the main reason why I joined MOL, to ask everything before I do it the wrong way. So dont mind me asking so many quuestions.

[Detailing by M]

Re: Help Required ! Synthetic Sealant + Light Wax

21 is a cross-linked polymer sealant that takes 24 to set up.
When using it you just apply, let it haze and wipe off.
I advise my customers to not touch their car for 24 hours. Is this necessary? not really but some people will drive there car after a detail, get it filthy and wash it. So it might interrupt the cross-linking processor, in theory. So better safe then sorry.

As for topping it? Waste of time and money. I never do this and never will.
Out of the thousands of cars I've done if I multiplied that by 2 or even 3 times, that adds up to a lot of product and time wasted on a "slight" improvement that no one will notice.

The biggest thing in making paint shine is getting it flat. Put your time into polishing and not waxing.
Waxes and sealant are only there for protection and to ad gloss.

[Ehsan4808]

Re: Help Required ! Synthetic Sealant + Light Wax

21 is a cross-linked polymer sealant that takes 24 to set up.
When using it you just apply, let it haze and wipe off.
I advise my customers to not touch their car for 24 hours. Is this necessary? not really but some people will drive there car after a detail, get it filthy and wash it. So it might interrupt the cross-linking processor, in theory. So better safe then sorry.

As for topping it? Waste of time and money. I never do this and never will.
Out of the thousands of cars I've done if I multiplied that by 2 or even 3 times, that adds up to a lot of product and time wasted on a "slight" improvement that no one will notice.

The biggest thing in making paint shine is getting it flat. Put your time into polishing and not waxing.
Waxes and sealant are only there for protection and to ad gloss.

Yes, thanks
I,ll be acting upon @C8N advice.
would be using White wax and after 12 or more hours i,ll be sealing it.

[Detailing by M]

Re: Help Required ! Synthetic Sealant + Light Wax

White Wax is a strong Cleaner wax and will remove the micro thin layer of 21

[jankerson]

Re: Help Required ! Synthetic Sealant + Light Wax

I top M21 (NXT) or ULW with M26 on my personal cars, especially my Jeep that stays in the garage.

Then it's D135 and D156 for maintenance.

On a customer car, it's ether M21 or ULW and that's it, or just M26 if they want a wax instead of a sealant.

[Ehsan4808]

Re: Help Required ! Synthetic Sealant + Light Wax

So I should then use White wax first , and then the sealant.. ??
To use the products which i,ve already purchased.
Because i cant buy 26 at the moment..

[jankerson]

Re: Help Required ! Synthetic Sealant + Light Wax

So I should then use White wax first , and then the sealant.. ??
To use the products which i,ve already purchased.
Because i cant buy 26 at the moment..

Yes, you will need to use the White Wax 1st because the White Wax would remove the Sealant.

[Ehsan4808]

Re: Help Required ! Synthetic Sealant + Light Wax

Gr8.. Thanks bro.. Tomorrow all would be done.
Wash
Clay
Wash
UC
White Wax
Sealant

[jankerson]

Re: Help Required ! Synthetic Sealant + Light Wax

Gr8.. Thanks bro.. Tomorrow all would be done.
Wash
Clay
Wash
UC
White Wax
Sealant

Should work out really well for you.

[Ehsan4808]

Re: Help Required ! Synthetic Sealant + Light Wax

Thanks.