M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 - Formula Update

[Andy M.]

I just wanted to throw this out there for some reflection seeing as Houkster is new to our forum. We appreciate you being a member and we value your participation.


Sometimes it is better to push away from the keyboard. Think twice, post once.

Please familiarize yourself with our forum rules, especially, #1 and #2.

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Thanks for understanding.

Andy M.
MOL Moderator

[Andy M.]

I have re-opened the thread as I have made all of the administrators of our forum aware and we will keep a close eye on it.

Thanks

Andy

[Houckster]

I have looked over the rules that the moderator, Andy M., has pointed out:

1. No personal attacks toward members or non-members will be tolerated.

2. No arguing with Moderators or Administrators.

First, if a post is interpreted by the moderator as being a personal attack, there is no recourse but to accept that judgment because the second rule prohibits any exchange of viewpoints because that can be interpreted as arguing with the moderator.

I made what I thought was a reasoned reply to the objections of the administrator. The response of the moderator was that I should push away from the keyboard and think twice and post once.

I am requesting that this account be closed.

[Andy M.]

I am sorry that you feel that way. But as I said, and has been a "motto" here for a number of years, at times one needs "to push away from the keyboard". And once again, you came back with another post in which you were upset.

We stand behind our Moderators, if our Moderators think you're causing problems for the online community they are empowered to take whatever action necessary to correct the problem.

I closed your account for you. No worries.

Andy M.

[RamAirV1]

Originally Posted by Houckster

I thought that I'd pass on what I read on another forum about M21 and cure time. The recommendation was to leave the M21 on for 12 hours (Polycharger wasn't part of the discussion) so that it would fully cure before removing the haze. It seems to me that the protection might be more durable with this method. I'm going to try this tonight. I already have a coat of M21 on the car that I mixed with Polycharger. I won't strip what's already there, just add another layer of M21/Polycharger and wait twelve hours. I see how that works as far as ease of removal goes. Any other conclusions will take a lot longer to reach.

The curing process doesn't really begin until the haze is removed. Hazing is not the same as curing.

I tried Polycharger with a competitor's product and quite frankly I did not see all that much difference, in looks, durability, or haze time. Just my observation.

NXT is NOT the same product as #21. I think most detailers who have used both LSPs would agree with that statement. For one thing #21 lasts much longer than NXT does.

RamAirV1

[THERAPY]

i didn`t understand one moment-can i maintain my car after causing or it is possible i can drive after causing ?

[THERAPY]

after causing i see white broad patterns-
grinding does not help
. disappear only after washing
why?

[Andy M.]

Originally Posted by THERAPY

after causing i see white broad patterns-
grinding does not help
. disappear only after washing
why?

I want to try to help you but I am having difficulty understanding your question. Are you saying there is a haze on your vehicle that will only come off after washing?

Andy

[THERAPY]

Andy M. Yes,you understand me.

[fordf150]

Originally Posted by RamAirV1

NXT is NOT the same product as #21. I think most detailers who have used both LSPs would agree with that statement. For one thing #21 lasts much longer than NXT does.
RamAirV1

While I will agree with you that #21 has good durability, have you tested both products side by side for comparison?

Not saying your statement isn't true, but I remember seeing a post by Mike Phillips about this very subject. According to him the main difference in the two is that #21 is formulated to allow application by rotary (hence professional line) while NXT isn't.