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    How To Remove Swirls By Hand

    How To Remove Swirls By Hand


    The below write-up was taken from page three of this Saturday Detailing Class at Meguiar's where approximately 25 people witnessed the products shown below, applied and removed using the correct techniques to remove the gross rotary buffer swirls and restore a swirl free finish by hand.

    San Diego Mercedes-Benz club at Meguiar's!


    After selecting two Mercedes-Benz automobiles to work on, one being Tom's, we broke for a pizza lunch. After everyone had their fill of pizza and something cold to drink, it was time to re-gather in Meguiar's Garage to see what we could do with the gross swirls in Tom's recently painted hood.




    Often times when the topic of removing swirls is being discussed on our discussion forum, or some other detailing forum, it centers around the dual action polisher, foam buffing pads and somebody's compound or polish. Yet many people don't own a dual action polisher. So here at Meguiar's Garage, we like to show people how to use the what they already own... their hands!



    Like most detailing enthusiasts, I personally love a challenge, and with Tom's car, I believe most people would agree, his car's finish presents a challenge!

    BEFORE - 700 Pixel-wide cropped out section from an un-touched, original photo of rotary buffer swirls in a clear coat finish.





    Using some painters tape, we taped-off a section of the hood to separate the before and after results. Then, we applied three, well worked in applications of Meguiar's ScratchX all applied by hand using Meguiar's High-Tech Applicator Pad






    The secret to removing swirls by hand using Meguiar's ScratchX is all in your technique. You see in order to remove swirls out of your car's finish, you need to remove a little bit of paint. If we we're to look at a horizontal view of what gross rotary buffer swirls look like in the paint, it would look something like the diagram below. In order to remove these below surface defects, (swirls), you need to remove enough paint from the finish to level the upper surface with the *****t depths of the swirls until you've restored the finish to a flat, level surface.




    To do this by hand with ScratchX, you need to,
    • * Apply to a small section at a time
      * First spread the ScratchX evenly over the area you're going to work (before working it in)
      * Work the microscopic diminishing abrasives against the finish applying a little passion behind the applicator pad
      * Repeat this process with multiple applications after first removing the residue from each application after working it against the finish


    Remember that Meguiar's paint cleaners, like ScratchX do not need to dry before removing. Drying adds no benefit. The only Meguiar's paint products that need to dry before removing are Meguiar's waxes.

    Technique Tip

    The question is often asked,

    "Which direction should I move my hand when applying a Meguiar's paint cleaner?"

    A common mis-conception, often espoused on other discussion forums, or by some car care product manufactures, is the technique of only rubbing a product in a certain direction to keep all of your scratches going in the same direction.

    Meguiar's teaches that if the products you're using are non-abrasive, that is they are not instilling scratches into the finish, as such, it shouldn't matter which direction you move your hand!

    If the products you're using are inflicting scratches into your car's finish, the correct thing to do is to stop using the product! Don't try to camouflage the scratches to your eyes by instilling them in straight-lines as determined by the movement of your hand.

    ScratchX can be applied using straight-lines or circular motion and for this particular demonstration we used a combination of both.

    Removing ScratchX using Meguiar's Supreme Shine Microfiber after working the product against the finish until the product has broken down, turned somewhat clear and begun to dissipate.




    At Meguiar's Saturday Detailing 101 classes, we go through a power point presentation that covers a wide spectrum of detailing topics, one of which is Meguiar's 5-Step Paint Care Cycle , which includes;
    • Step 1 Wash
      Step 2 Clean
      Step 3 Polish
      Step 4 Protect
      Step 5 Maintain
    After cleaning the paint with a paint cleaner like ScratchX, we then apply a pure polish, in this case, Deep Crystal Polish which is a non-abrasive pure polish.



    In Meguiar's line, we offer two types of polishes, cleaner/polishes, which contain a diminishing abrasive, and pure polishes, which are completely non-abrasive and are used solely for the purpose of creating brilliant gloss. Deep Crystal Polish is a pure polish.



    The way you apply a pure polish is akin to applying a skin lotion to your skin. That is you apply the polish to a small section at a time, work the product in thoroughly.



    After thoroughly, (but gently with care and passion), remove any excess polish with a clean, soft premium quality microfiber polishing cloth or 100% cotton towel.



    Like ScratchX a paint cleaner, it is not necessary to let a pure polish like Deep Crystal Polish dry before removing it. Allowing a polish to dry will not add anything beneficial to the process, so after you work it in well, go a head and remove it.


    At this point, we have cleaned and polished the finish. The cleaning step removed the swirls and the polishing step restored optical clarity, depth, reflectivity, richness of color and brilliant gloss. Next we're going to apply a coating of Meguiar's new NXT Generation Tech Wax Paste



    NXT Generation Tech Wax Paste is identical to NXT Generation Tech Wax Liquid except that it comes in a paste form. There are two types of paste waxes, the difference is in their consistency. The practical application difference is in how you remove them from the can and then apply them.

    With a cleaner/wax (paste), like Meguiar's A12 Meguiar's Cleaner/Wax you can scoop out a small amount and with your applicator pad and then apply it to the finish and work it in.



    With paste waxes like Gold Class Clear Coat Wax Paste, M26 Hi Tech Yellow Wax, and NXT Generation Tech Wax Paste, instead of scooping wax out of the can, you can twist, or spin your wax applicator against the wax while it's in the can and this little bit of agitation will help to liquefy the wax and enable it to seep, or penetrate into your applicator pad whereupon making it easier to apply to the finish.





    Paste waxes like NXT Tech Generation Wax offer good gliding action and tend to apply very easy. Remember a little bit goes a long ways and it's important to try to apply a uniform, thin coating.



    After applying the Tech Wax Paste and allowing it to dry, we removed it using a Supreme Shine Microfiber polishing cloth and the Tom backed his Mercedes-Benz out into the sun where everyone could look at the results and see with their own two eyes what can be accomplished by hand with the right products and the correct techniques.







    Here's the owner Tom inspecting closely!



    And here I am capturing the results with our Sony Digital which does an excellent job of capture swirls in the sun.




    Before



    After
















    Perfect? No.

    dramatically improved? Yes!

    Most importantly, we fixed by hand what someone else inflicted with a rotary buffer.

    Meguiar's products, applied and removed using the correct techniques will outperform the competition hands down and give your car a swirl-free show car shine!
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    Thumbs up REMOVING SWIRLS BY HAND

    Mike...you the man. Thanks for the info on removing swirls. I have a 2000 300m inferno red chrysler that had some issurs with swirls and minor scratches. I did the deep crystal system with the gold class wax (liquid) and it was impressive. The tip of putting 3 apps of scratchX will probably take my car to another level.

    Thanks

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    Scratch-X worked a miracle on my black 2004 Grand Prix that I bought (used) last month. The finish had a lot of swirl marks and it looked like cobwebs. I used Scratch-X and it took out the swirl marks and the fine scratches. I followed up with the Swirl Free Polish and then with NXT Generation wax and the car looks absolutely amazing. I love it when my black car's finish looks wet.

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    How often can you used this method? Every month?

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    While this is probably best in another thread, the answer is you can do it as often as needed, but if you get swirls that bad every month, you have other issues with your car care routine.
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    Re: How To Remove Swirls By Hand

    I have been finding some customers with that problem I have been using the product fast shine and cotton because here I don't find some products of Meguiars unhappily.

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    Re: How To Remove Swirls By Hand

    DO i have to use the polish and the wax for it too look that good. I used the scratchX and it looks good but not as good as i want it to be

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    Re: How To Remove Swirls By Hand

    Quote Originally Posted by hondaprelude98 View Post
    DO i have to use the polish and the wax for it too look that good. I used the scratchX and it looks good but not as good as i want it to be

    You say it doesn't looks as good as you want it... not enough shine? Still swirls and scratches?

    ScratcchX is a cleaner polish and will provide no protection from the environment... so anytime you use ScratchX you need to apply a coat of wax. You can apply ScratchX more than once to help eliminate swirls and scratches.
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    Re: How To Remove Swirls By Hand

    Quote Originally Posted by hondaprelude98 View Post
    DO i have to use the polish and the wax for it too look that good. I used the scratchX and it looks good but not as good as i want it to be

    Sometimes there's some confusion over the role of a paint cleaner, it's a product meant to remove defects. After using a paint cleaner you always need to re-apply a coat of protection. Polishing is an optional step that you can do after cleaning and before applying a coat of wax.
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    Re: How To Remove Swirls By Hand

    Several threads and numerous pictures have no doubt made some believers with the ScratchX product! I have a question/comment:

    I'm new, but looking around, I've seen a few instances where ScratchX was done by hand ... and I guess the point was it was done in succession about three to four applications before final waxing. That may be worth pointing out for noobs like me, and may be the ticket.

    1.) Would using an Dual-Action (D/A) machine reduce the number of applications needed?

    2.) If doing by hand, wouldn't this just be excruciating for an entire vehicle?

    3.) You mention to get results you have to remove some paint ... to clarify, is it actually taking the clear off and then the paint, or ... is that a general statement - seems like one would need to re-clear the car.

    As a noob, I used it once on my black Benz, and saw little results - by hand ... I am ordering a machine this week cuz all weekend about killed me!

    Thanks for making such great products, and for all of the technical advise! In just a few days, I've learned that a pure polish is non-abrasive ... not what I would have thought. A good guy on here told me to go get ScratchX ... so I did!

    Thanks for being patient as I hobble along here learning my way around

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