Ceramic pro

[335d]

Re: Ceramic pro

I promise I am nothing to do with ceramic pro . I am just a geek who loves his black car looking it's best . I am gobsmacked ceramic pro has lasted ,the money now seams cheap

[Blueline]

Re: Ceramic pro

I still believe the best coating is whats already on: Clear coat, polish that and it will out preform anything

You are absolutely right.

[335d]

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You are absolutely right.

Please tell all me why you think that wax is better because I can't find anything better then ceramic , even the **** brands beat wax hands down

[twisty roads]

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Please tell all me why you think that wax is better because I can't find anything better then ceramic , even the **** brands beat wax hands down

lets quantify "beats hands down"

ceramic coating vs wax:

UV protection: equal
durability: coatings
cost: wax
time effort: depends on classifying as up front (wax) or life of car (coating)
scratch/micro marring protection: coating BUT a good wash protocol/technique would make this point null
appearance: coating...but subjective if you want a mirror/glass like reflection or a warm deep reflection

I understand the cost if your paint is trashed and needs a full correction. I would never spend $1K+ on a coating...$100-$150 sure. One thing I have never seen is a up close look (paint thickness gauge or paint condition cameras) to see if there is a difference between a coated surface vs a wax/sealant surface. There was a UK company performing a 20 spot durability test on YouTube including ceramic pro 5h, 6h, 9h, (iirc) and other coatings like Megs PP365 and CarPro Essence. He was suppose to update every month but his last update was 60-days after initial application.

I strongly believe that if you stay on top of applying your wax and washing correctly that ceramic coatings offer nothing to the table that proper techniques offer. However, if you don't want to wash your car every week or want to wait 1-5 years in between time efforts to protect your car, then there are some advantages that a coating will offer.

[335d]

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lets quantify "beats hands down"

ceramic coating vs wax:

UV protection: equal
durability: coatings
cost: wax
time effort: depends on classifying as up front (wax) or life of car (coating)
scratch/micro marring protection: coating BUT a good wash protocol/technique would make this point null
appearance: coating...but subjective if you want a mirror/glass like reflection or a warm deep reflection

I understand the cost if your paint is trashed and needs a full correction. I would never spend $1K+ on a coating...$100-$150 sure. One thing I have never seen is a up close look (paint thickness gauge or paint condition cameras) to see if there is a difference between a coated surface vs a wax/sealant surface. There was a UK company performing a 20 spot durability test on YouTube including ceramic pro 5h, 6h, 9h, (iirc) and other coatings like Megs PP365 and CarPro Essence. He was suppose to update every month but his last update was 60-days after initial application.

I strongly believe that if you stay on top of applying your wax and washing correctly that ceramic coatings offer nothing to the table that proper techniques offer. However, if you don't want to wash your car every week or want to wait 1-5 years in between time efforts to protect your car, then there are some advantages that a coating will offer.

scratch/micro marring protection: coating BUT a good wash protocol/technique would make this point null ..
if you saw how i wash my car and have done over 150 times you would dye .. i use one bucket with maybe 5 inch of water/soap with lambs wool mit going in the bucket 4 times to wash the hole car maring is there but its next to nothing

you are right about the appearance , i have a bmw everyone knows the paint is shocking so i sanded it first , then buffed with only one pad and one compound to a glass finish after i coated in ceramic pro the deep shine like nail polish i guess i was super happy but its not for everyone

One thing I have never seen is a up close look (paint thickness gauge or paint condition cameras) to see if there is a difference between a coated

it 100% protects the paint from light scratches as i had a crazy chicken try to get on my bonnet , a quick buff scratches gone

There was a UK company performing a 20 spot durability test on YouTube including ceramic pro 5h, 6h, 9h, (iirc) and other coatings like Megs PP365 and CarPro Essence. He was suppose to update every month but his last update was 60-days after initial application.

i am that sad i tried them all over the last 4 years . my opinion is ceramic pro if funds allow

I strongly believe that if you stay on top of applying your wax and washing correctly that ceramic coatings offer nothing to the table that proper techniques offer. However, if you don't want to wash your car every week or want to wait 1-5 years in between time efforts to protect your car, then there are some advantages that a coating will offer.[/QUOTE]

things i like with ceramic over wax , that i can wash it in 30 mins and looks just as good the day i applied it , not really having to mess about with other products to clean the burnt in brake dust waiting ages for the dried in flys to come off , driving in the rain without having to use my wipers even 10 foot away from a wagon with all the spray i can still see perfect I think you need to try it i am sure you will change your mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPzU...ature=youtu.be

[Michael Stoops]

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For someone who is JUST an enthusiast, and enthusiastic about this product, it is rather interesting that you choose to come on a competitors website and push soooo hard for this particular product. We've done probably as much, if not more, testing of ceramic and glass coatings than anyone - world wide, I might add - and there is no doubt that the product you're pushing so heavily is indeed good stuff. Even so, such coatings are not for everyone. There are those who still enjoy the simple act of polishing and waxing their cars, and many prefer the look of a properly prepared car and take great satisfaction in having done the work themselves. I recently sold a 13 year old car with over 100,000 miles on it, and when the buyer took it to a mechanic to have it looked over the mechanic asked how it was possible for a car of that age with that many miles on it too look so good. People had asked me, just before I sold it, where I had gotten it repainted. Just polishing and waxing regularly, that was it. And you know what? I actually enjoyed every minute of it.

So if some of our forum members are stating that they would prefer to maintain their vehicles in the manner in which they are accustomed, and take the therapeutic benefits that often go with that maintenance, why push so hard to convince them of a product that you, supposedly, have no financial gain in promoting? Let it go. Besides, it's starting to sound very much like you're actually acting as a rep for the company, which violates our forum rules. I don't really believe that you are, truth be told, but you really need to back off and let folks choose their own method of taking care of their cars. Especially when the act of caring for the car is, in and of itself, a big part of the joy of car ownership for these folks.

[Blueline]

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from light scratches as i had a crazy chicken try to get on my bonnet , a quick buff scratches gone

I really hate to indulge you but a few years ago, I had a crazy cat slide off my car roof, down the back window, and tried to brake using its claws on my black trunk. A small dab from a $10.00 bottle of Meguiar's Ultimate compound, a "quick buff scratches gone" And, I still have most of that bottle left, ready for crazy cats, or even crazy chickens. The fact that your "stuff" can scratch from a mere chicken, doesn't really say much about the product. How does it stand up to moose licking salt off the cars in winter?

[335d]

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For someone who is JUST an enthusiast, and enthusiastic about this product, it is rather interesting that you choose to come on a competitors website and push soooo hard for this particular product. We've done probably as much, if not more, testing of ceramic and glass coatings than anyone - world wide, I might add - and there is no doubt that the product you're pushing so heavily is indeed good stuff. Even so, such coatings are not for everyone. There are those who still enjoy the simple act of polishing and waxing their cars, and many prefer the look of a properly prepared car and take great satisfaction in having done the work themselves. I recently sold a 13 year old car with over 100,000 miles on it, and when the buyer took it to a mechanic to have it looked over the mechanic asked how it was possible for a car of that age with that many miles on it too look so good. People had asked me, just before I sold it, where I had gotten it repainted. Just polishing and waxing regularly, that was it. And you know what? I actually enjoyed every minute of it.

So if some of our forum members are stating that they would prefer to maintain their vehicles in the manner in which they are accustomed, and take the therapeutic benefits that often go with that maintenance, why push so hard to convince them of a product that you, supposedly, have no financial gain in promoting? Let it go. Besides, it's starting to sound very much like you're actually acting as a rep for the company, which violates our forum rules. I don't really believe that you are, truth be told, but you really need to back off and let folks choose their own method of taking care of their cars. Especially when the act of caring for the car is, in and of itself, a big part of the joy of car ownership for these folks.

For someone who is JUST an enthusiast, and enthusiastic about this product, it is rather interesting that you choose to come on a competitors website and push soooo hard for this particular product. We've done probably as much, if not more, testing of ceramic and glass coatings than anyone - world wide, I might add - and there is no doubt that the product you're pushing so heavily is indeed good stuff. Even so, such coatings are not for everyone. There are those who still enjoy the simple act of polishing and waxing their cars, and many prefer the look of a properly prepared car and take great satisfaction in having done the work themselves. I recently sold a 13 year old car with over 100,000 miles on it, and when the buyer took it to a mechanic to have it looked over the mechanic asked how it was possible for a car of that age with that many miles on it too look so good. People had asked me, just before I sold it, where I had gotten it repainted. Just polishing and waxing regularly, that was it. And you know what? I actually enjoyed every minute of it





So if some of our forum members are stating that they would prefer to maintain their vehicles in the manner in which they are accustomed, and take the therapeutic benefits that often go with that maintenance, why push so hard to convince them of a product that you, supposedly, have no financial gain in promoting? Let it go. Besides, it's starting to sound very much like you're actually acting as a rep for the company, which violates our forum rules. I don't really believe that you are, truth be told, but you really need to back off and let folks choose their own method of taking care of their cars. Especially when the act of caring for the car is, in and of itself, a big part of the joy of car ownership for these folks.

Hi I am just a guy who loves things shiny like everyone on here if you read back when I first posted on here it was because of your compound 105 and the microfibres disks that I only buy from you because they are the best , I have never used a pad and compound like it . It turns joe blogs into a master at correcting paint , the coating means nothing if the car is not right , it makes me unhappy when I have to spend my hard earned money because products are being pushed saying how amazing they are when in fact they are not that good putting profit over people then telling them they haven't applied correctly when I know I do everything by the book I have no problem with megs I've used your stuff for over ten years , my car only looks the way it does because of your products, anything you apply to the paint is a bonus but I really don't think much of wax or polish anymore maybe you will understand all I ever own is black cars , they look the best from any colour when clean only problem as soon you start driving dust will stick fast when it rains all the road dirt will stick to the sides of a car almost in the shape of a rainbow then my car will look so bad . This makes me unhappy as all the effort I've put in has gone so I tried ceramic that make me happy short term with claims that are not true just like saying it will last 5-7 years it's not true most have warn off within a few months as you will know only for the companies selling it to blame it on how it's been installed or not looking after the coating , I wash my car every 2 days some days everyday . Then I bit the bullet and bought ceramic pro costing way more than any of the others now I'm 70% happy. There is another coating that for over 2 years I have tried to buy with a water angle 170degrees but they won't sell it to me and no one else is using it that I can find I am more than happy to tell you who makes it and you can buy it then please sell to me until then ceramic pro is the only coating I would ever use just like I would only ever use your microfibre pads and 105 compound as you say it will do this and yes it does what you say no lies no tricks , as I said before I sanded my car and after lots spent on junk products I tried your stuff and bang I had what I wanted flawless paint no 3 stage talk one pad one compound. The prob with the world people are happy ripping people off with untrue info for money , I am not like that at all everything I do I try to make people happy without bigging something up just to get the money . Ceramic pro costs way too much but you do get something that lasts , it's 5 year claim I will never know as I will do my car again very soon but I do not work for them of get all money from them I am lucky I can buy for my own car as I have a school friend from aus who will sell me it as he knows I have things missing from my brain lol

[335d]

Re: Ceramic pro

I really hate to indulge you but a few years ago, I had a crazy cat slide off my car roof, down the back window, and tried to brake using its claws on my black trunk. A small dab from a $10.00 bottle of Meguiar's Ultimate compound, a "quick buff scratches gone" And, I still have most of that bottle left, ready for crazy cats, or even crazy chickens. The fact that your "stuff" can scratch from a mere chicken, doesn't really say much about the product. How does it stand up to moose licking salt off the cars in winter?

First time I had ever wetsanded a car was a c class I spent hours doing it then locked my cat in he garage I had to get bonnet painted again god I was angry . Bear in mind I've sanded my paint the clear coat so it will be very thin now if I had used wax i would be having it painted but the ceramic saved me from having to do that chicken feet have big sharp claws so both of us was very very lucky they didn't scratch the paint