Used wrong polish... can i remove the wax coat and redo it with the right one?

[BehrProPaint]

Long story short I used the show room glaze after I used ultimate compound on the hood of my car trying to get rid of some scratches and swirls.

It worked about 75%. I put wax on and then realized I used the wrong polish. Meant to use ultimate polish.. I buy the bigger supply and I put them in my own smaller bottles for keeping in my car... just didnt look at the writing when I grabbed it

Also i only used UQW not a real wax so I am just wondering if I can wash the car and then reapply polish and wax?

I should run a pass of compound again right?

[Don]

Re: Used wrong polish... can i remove the wax coat and redo it with the right one?

Long story short I used the show room glaze after I used ultimate compound on the hood of my car trying to get rid of some scratches and swirls.

It worked about 75%. I put wax on and then realized I used the wrong polish. Meant to use ultimate polish.. I buy the bigger supply and I put them in my own smaller bottles for keeping in my car... just didnt look at the writing when I grabbed it

Also i only used UQW not a real wax so I am just wondering if I can wash the car and then reapply polish and wax?

I should run a pass of compound again right?

I see you're new, welcome to MOL.

No, you don't need the compound again unless the Ultimate compound doesn't remove the scratches and swirls you are trying to get out. This forum believes in the "Less is Best" philosophy ... meaning if you can use a milder product (polish VS compound OR cleaner wax VS polish etc) then that's what you should do.

Don't worry about the glaze (the one you used is non-abrasive BTW) and only hid or masked the defects, so no damage was done to your paint by using it.

I would recommend using the Ult Polish on a polishing or mild pad and work it in well to correct the flaws in your paint. It's the safest starting point and odds are you'll be happily surprised with the results. If it turns out the way you want, then simply re-wax the car and you're done.

Don't be shy, come on in and ask ANY question you may have. No question is stupid and odds are one of us will have the answer.

[04blkpearlcoupe]

Re: Used wrong polish... can i remove the wax coat and redo it with the right one?

Meg's Show Car Glaze #7 isn't actually a glaze. It's a pure polish. I don't know why they call it a glaze. It says right on the bottle that its a pure polish and that it needs to be followed by a protective wax or sealant. It's body-shop safe too so that's even more proof that it's simply a polish and leaves behind no glaze. In other words, you don't have to worry about removing it since it doesn't leave behind a layer of anything.

[Don]

Re: Used wrong polish... can i remove the wax coat and redo it with the right one?

#7 is completely non-abrasive, so all it does is add oils to the paint and temporarily fill minor swirls. Any abrasive action is due to the type of applicator used: foam, terry cloth, microfiber etc. each give a different level of "abrasiveness" or aggressiveness to the application.

[drumdan]

Re: Used wrong polish... can i remove the wax coat and redo it with the right one?

Meg's Show Car Glaze #7 isn't actually a glaze. It's a pure polish. I don't know why they call it a glaze. It says right on the bottle that its a pure polish and that it needs to be followed by a protective wax or sealant. It's body-shop safe too so that's even more proof that it's simply a polish and leaves behind no glaze. In other words, you don't have to worry about removing it since it doesn't leave behind a layer of anything.

In the Meguiar's lexicon, their definition of a "polish" refers to a what's now common referred to as a Glaze. There are no corrective agents in the formula, only "beautification" ingredients to provide intense gloss and shine before sealing or waxing.

[drumdan]

Re: Used wrong polish... can i remove the wax coat and redo it with the right one?

I see you're new, welcome to MOL.

No, you don't need the compound again unless the Ultimate compound doesn't remove the scratches and swirls you are trying to get out. This forum believes in the "Less is Best" philosophy ... meaning if you can use a milder product (polish VS compound OR cleaner wax VS polish etc) then that's what you should do.

Don't worry about the glaze (the one you used is non-abrasive BTW) and only hid or masked the defects, so no damage was done to your paint by using it.

I would recommend using the Ult Polish on a polishing or mild pad and work it in well to correct the flaws in your paint. It's the safest starting point and odds are you'll be happily surprised with the results. If it turns out the way you want, then simply re-wax the car and you're done.

Don't be shy, come on in and ask ANY question you may have. No question is stupid and odds are one of us will have the answer.

Totally agree with Don.

Your fine going over it with Ultimate Polish, and really waxing.

The slower you can get that pad to rotate while still maintaining rotation, will give you some beautiful gloss in a short amount of time.

[Nick Winn]

Re: Used wrong polish... can i remove the wax coat and redo it with the right one?

Meg's Show Car Glaze #7 isn't actually a glaze. It's a pure polish. I don't know why they call it a glaze. It says right on the bottle that its a pure polish and that it needs to be followed by a protective wax or sealant. It's body-shop safe too so that's even more proof that it's simply a polish and leaves behind no glaze. In other words, you don't have to worry about removing it since it doesn't leave behind a layer of anything.

The word "glaze" and "polish" is marketed differently by different manufacturers.

In a paint shop/body shop environment, to us, most "glazes" are typcially a product with polishing oils and/or fillers, usually applied to the car as a last step or second to last step, to either further refine the paint & bring up a high gloss, and/or in some cases, actual fill in defects temporarily. Also, from our experience, these polishing oils left behind are considered to many a little bit of protection, even though there is no actual wax in the formulation.

To Meguiar's our "glazes" are technically yes pure polishes or cleaner/polishes. To us, they are offering the same benefits as a typical "glaze", (that's why they are marketed as a glaze) with the exception that they are not designed to fill (when applicable, because we would imagine we are not the only one who have a "glaze" product with no fillers). On another note, will our glazes hide defects naturally to a certain extent? Sure, due to their polishing oils. But for example, we have never trained or told a customer to apply our #7 Show Car Glaze to hide defects. We recommended to apply our #7 Show Car Glaze to add gloss, or to be used on fresh paint for a small amount of protection during the curing time. Our style is to remove all defects permanently first.

The polishing oils that are left behind on the surface in a paint shop/body shop environment (where waxes cannot be applied to fresh paint) from our experience, are considered to provide a small amount of protection & water resilience. In a cured paint environment or outside of paint shop, a glaze or polish is not recommended to be used as a main source of protection, & will dissipate in a week or so.

Overall, it sounds like you may have a different definition of what a "glaze" means to you! : )

(To OP: Sorry to highjack the thread but wanted to clarify for others viewing)

- Nick

Totally agree with Don.

Your fine going over it with Ultimate Polish, and really waxing.

The slower you can get that pad to rotate while still maintaining rotation, will give you some beautiful gloss in a short amount of time.

I think what drumdan meant to say was you are "fine going over it with Ultimate Polish & re- waxing."

- Nick

[drumdan]

Re: Used wrong polish... can i remove the wax coat and redo it with the right one?

The word "glaze" and "polish" is marketed differently by different manufacturers.

In a paint shop/body shop environment, to us, most "glazes" are typcially a product with polishing oils and/or fillers, usually applied to the car as a last step or second to last step, to either further refine the paint & bring up a high gloss, and/or in some cases, actual fill in defects temporarily. Also, from our experience, these polishing oils left behind are considered to many a little bit of protection, even though there is no actual wax in the formulation.

To Meguiar's our "glazes" are technically yes pure polishes or cleaner/polishes. To us, they are offering the same benefits as a typical "glaze", (that's why they are marketed as a glaze) with the exception that they are not designed to fill (when applicable, because we would imagine we are not the only one who have a "glaze" product with no fillers). On another note, will our glazes hide defects naturally to a certain extent? Sure, due to their polishing oils. But for example, we have never trained or told a customer to apply our #7 Show Car Glaze to hide defects. We recommended to apply our #7 Show Car Glaze to add gloss, or to be used on fresh paint for a small amount of protection during the curing time. Our style is to remove all defects permanently first.

The polishing oils that are left behind on the surface in a paint shop/body shop environment (where waxes cannot be applied to fresh paint) from our experience, are considered to provide a small amount of protection & water resilience. In a cured paint environment or outside of paint shop, a glaze or polish is not recommended to be used as a main source of protection, & will dissipate in a week or so.

Overall, it sounds like you may have a different definition of what a "glaze" means to you! : )

(To OP: Sorry to highjack the thread but wanted to clarify for others viewing)

- Nick



I think what drumdan meant to say was you are "fine going over it with Ultimate Polish & re- waxing."

- Nick

Yes, thanks Nick!

Also, thanks for the clarification on the polish/glaze thing.

[04blkpearlcoupe]

Re: Used wrong polish... can i remove the wax coat and redo it with the right one?

The word "glaze" and "polish" is marketed differently by different manufacturers.

In a paint shop/body shop environment, to us, most "glazes" are typcially a product with polishing oils and/or fillers, usually applied to the car as a last step or second to last step, to either further refine the paint & bring up a high gloss, and/or in some cases, actual fill in defects temporarily. Also, from our experience, these polishing oils left behind are considered to many a little bit of protection, even though there is no actual wax in the formulation.

To Meguiar's our "glazes" are technically yes pure polishes or cleaner/polishes. To us, they are offering the same benefits as a typical "glaze", (that's why they are marketed as a glaze) with the exception that they are not designed to fill (when applicable, because we would imagine we are not the only one who have a "glaze" product with no fillers). On another note, will our glazes hide defects naturally to a certain extent? Sure, due to their polishing oils. But for example, we have never trained or told a customer to apply our #7 Show Car Glaze to hide defects. We recommended to apply our #7 Show Car Glaze to add gloss, or to be used on fresh paint for a small amount of protection during the curing time. Our style is to remove all defects permanently first.

The polishing oils that are left behind on the surface in a paint shop/body shop environment (where waxes cannot be applied to fresh paint) from our experience, are considered to provide a small amount of protection & water resilience. In a cured paint environment or outside of paint shop, a glaze or polish is not recommended to be used as a main source of protection, & will dissipate in a week or so.

Overall, it sounds like you may have a different definition of what a "glaze" means to you! : )

(To OP: Sorry to highjack the thread but wanted to clarify for others viewing)

- Nick



I think what drumdan meant to say was you are "fine going over it with Ultimate Polish & re- waxing."

- Nick

Thank you. That does clear it up for me. When I hear 'glaze' I automatically think of those products that were popular in the 70's like "TR-3 Resin Glaze" which were like old-school versions of today's sealants.

[Nick Winn]

Re: Used wrong polish... can i remove the wax coat and redo it with the right one?

Yes, thanks Nick!

Also, thanks for the clarification on the polish/glaze thing.

Thank you. That does clear it up for me. When I hear 'glaze' I automatically think of those products that were popular in the 70's like "TR-3 Resin Glaze" which were like old-school versions of today's sealants.

We have these types of terminology discussions with our customers ever day, so no worries : )