UC vs M105

[AustrianOak82]

I have been using UC for a while and love the product. I am looking to buy in bulk, so I was looking at getting a bottle of the M105. I know it's slightly stronger in terms of cutting and I am wondering if I can seamlessly switch from UC to this. Is it as user friendly, etc? I am hesistant to buy a large amount since I haven't used it before so figured I would check. Thanks!

[Jarhead0754]

They say there is a slight learning curve but if ur dialed in good with UC and a da then it shouldn't b that much of a curve.

[AustrianOak82]

Re: UC vs M105

I actually just looked at Amazon and they have a 15.2 ounce bottle of UC for $8.99 and a 32 ounce bottle of M105 for $32.99. I guess there is no real reason to switch with the price difference being that large! Any reason why the M105 is so much more?

[The Guz]

Re: UC vs M105

M105 does have a learning curve to it. It can be frustrating to use at first. You could try picking up an 8 or 12 oz bottle to try it out. I like M105 but prefer M101.

http://www.autodetailingsolutions.net/m10512.html

You can also take advantage of the sales on Autogeek and Autopia Car Care

[mohebmhanna]

Re: UC vs M105

In what respect M105 needs learning curve - could you please provide more information. Thanks

[The Guz]

Re: UC vs M105

M105 has a shorter work time, it will dust more and if you use too much and over work it, it will turn into concrete on the paint. It requires less passes than UC. Out of the two UC is definitely more user friendly. It just takes a little time to get the technique of M105 down.

[Jarhead0754]

To bad u missed it but mike, the guz had some m105 he was posting in the giveaway sec. That could of been a nice sampler for u, but u could always buy the 8 oz I think it is instead of spending the big money on a bigger bottle. Autoality has them for $10

[cfilly]

Re: UC vs M105

I have been using UC for a while and love the product. I am looking to buy in bulk, so I was looking at getting a bottle of the M105. I know it's slightly stronger in terms of cutting and I am wondering if I can seamlessly switch from UC to this. Is it as user friendly, etc? I am hesistant to buy a large amount since I haven't used it before so figured I would check. Thanks!

Send me your address and I will send you a sample of 105.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: UC vs M105

I actually just looked at Amazon and they have a 15.2 ounce bottle of UC for $8.99 and a 32 ounce bottle of M105 for $32.99. I guess there is no real reason to switch with the price difference being that large! Any reason why the M105 is so much more?

M105 is more expensive, even in larger packaging, because it carries a higher abrasive load than UC, and the very high tech abrasives in these products are not cheap! Further, M105 being a "body shop safe" product, is formulated to be safe in a painting environment where certain ingredients are a major no-no. For home users and even pro detailers these ingredients are inconsequential so UC contains them. But these same ingredients can make UC easier to use than M105 - it offers a much longer buffing cycle than M105 (ie, it stays "wet" longer) and it can be easier to wipe off from aged, dried out paint. The offset, of course, is less cutting ability in UC. But for most consumers/weekend warriors/detailing enthusiasts, it offers all the cutting power you should ever need.

Many people have a tendency to overuse product, and UC is much more forgiving in this regard. Overuse of M105 can and will lead to quite a bit of dusting when used on a DA buffer. Therefore, transitioning from UC to M105 can be frustrating for some. But once they adjust their technique they get a better experience with M105. It could be said, however, that once they adjust their technique they actually get a better experience with UC as well!!

If you don't need the out and out cutting ability of M105 but want to buy in bulk, you might want to look into D300 Microfiber Correction Compound. Even when used on our new thin foam discs, it cuts like crazy, has a long buffing cycle, and creates virtually zero dust. We were using D300 with our new thin foam cutting disc to remove sanding marks from Mercedes Ceramiclear paint at SEMA last month and it worked great. Swap out the foam disc for a microfiber disc and it yields even more cut.

So..... if you're a weekend warrior/detailing enthusiast then you can probably accomplish everything you need to with UC. It seems like you're already getting a lot out of it so there may not be a huge reason to change. Plus, if you are a weekend warrior then you really shouldn't have much need for repeated use of a compound unless you've either got a lot of cars at home, or you regularly detail cars for friends and family. If, on the other hand, you're detailing for a living (or maybe for side income) then looking at something like D300 might make a whole lot of sense.

[drumdan]

Michael's summation is one of the best I've ever seen.

If you go on Meguiar's US FB site, you can see a 50/50 pic I (Dan Chapa) posted a few days ago of UC paired with a soft green Lake Country CCS polishing pad. The damage was from 2000 grit sand paper. One section pass (2 east/west, and 2 north/south). The machine was a Porter Cable 7424xp.

[Jarhead0754]

Of course everything mr stoops say should b gospel, and he is right as far as UC being just perfect for a weekend warrior. But going with 105 over UC can save that weekend warrior alot of time. That's y I would choose it over UC. When it takes u 2 days to do an entire detail on a car then anything to save u an hour here or there ill take. Lol.