Paint Protect

[Don]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Sounds like it will be a good product for people (even detailers) who hate to wax their cars ... in my case I hate to detail my wife's Explorer, it's just too big and the trim is a mess to try and keep wax out/off of.

[Top_Gun]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

This product will NOT be for sale at TNOG next week, nor will any of the other new products. They were just introduced today and will be shipping most likely in early December.

As previously stated, this product is not about gloss but rather protection. Ultimate Wax and NXT should prove a bit glossier but this will easily out last them, hands down.

Wow! The only bad thing I see: With the usual delays, it will be over here in Germany next summer, so I won't get to use it on the spouse's car before next year's winter prep. But even then, I have high hopes

Regards,

Detlev

[Michael Stoops]

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Mr Stoops, I think this is a great product for us folks that live in areas that have brutal winters and we typically go 4-6 months without any way to rewax. I have another question; because this product is so extremely durable will it cause an issue 4-6 months later in the spring when we want to go back to using a regular wax? Like is it so durable that when we go to rewax the remaining wax will be so firmly bonded that it will take extra compounding etc to get off.

Compounding will take it off, no worries about that. Heck, compounding will take off a true paint coating, so even those aren't an issue if you want them gone. If, after old man winter has moved out and you want to refresh your vehicle for spring, just do what you've always done. Wash, clay, compound, polish, wax - you'll take off the remains of this product with that full process; you can't just wash it off like you can with most waxes.

Mike, can it be used on black plastic trim and rubber on exterior surfaces? Is there a cur time for topping with glaze or wax?

It won't stain trim so that's not an issue. If you really want to top it, it would be best to give it the typical 12-24 our cure time first.

[Murr1525]

Ok, so just losing a bit of gloss to get longer life through winter. No extra risk of staining, etching, etc not using the ult wax.

[Michael Stoops]

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Ok, so just losing a bit of gloss to get longer life through winter. No extra risk of staining, etching, etc not using the ult wax.

That pretty well sums it up.

[OhioCarBuff]

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This product should be remarketed as a winter wax, or at least in the marketing for the product make sure to address how it would be beneficial in this regard. All of you folks in beautiful sunny California and other tropical areas don't understand what we go through in climates with rough winters, we can literally go 4-6 months without even being able to rewax and its very hard to even wash your car!

[Michael Stoops]

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All of you folks in beautiful sunny California and other tropical areas don't understand what we go through in climates with rough winters

Oh, you conclusion jumper, you!

We may be spoiled here in SoCal, to be sure, but this boy grew up outside Detroit so I know all too well how nasty a Midwest winter can be. And I had the very good fortune to travel back to my old stomping grounds last winter for a short while during the "Polar Vortex".... a term I never heard in 30 winters during my time around the Great Lakes. If it sounds like I'm not a huge fan of that weather, that's because I'm not!

But you're right, it is darn near impossible to keep a car looking good during that time of year. But with the advent of waterless and rinseless wash products (Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere, D114, D115) you can actually give your vehicle a very thorough wash inside your garage on a day that warms up..... like pushing double digits.....and it stays dry for a few days. Still not perfect, we understand, but for an OCD car crazy kinda guy, it beats the heck out of seeing your ride covered in salt and blending into the surrounding scenery, regardless of paint color!

[The Guz]

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Mike thanks for demoing this product for us at the 2015 Product TNOG. I have to say the textured beads on the label is a nice touch. I am looking forward to purchasing this when it becomes available.

[pcfxer]

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Oh, you conclusion jumper, you!

We may be spoiled here in SoCal, to be sure, but this boy grew up outside Detroit so I know all too well how nasty a Midwest winter can be. And I had the very good fortune to travel back to my old stomping grounds last winter for a short while during the "Polar Vortex".... a term I never heard in 30 winters during my time around the Great Lakes. If it sounds like I'm not a huge fan of that weather, that's because I'm not!

But you're right, it is darn near impossible to keep a car looking good during that time of year. But with the advent of waterless and rinseless wash products (Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere, D114, D115) you can actually give your vehicle a very thorough wash inside your garage on a day that warms up..... like pushing double digits.....and it stays dry for a few days. Still not perfect, we understand, but for an OCD car crazy kinda guy, it beats the heck out of seeing your ride covered in salt and blending into the surrounding scenery, regardless of paint color!

Rinse free express wash saved my bacon on that one! You should SEE/Experience the looks people would give me when my car was pulled out of my apartment's heated garage. Thanks for recommending it to me, 1-2 years ago.

#16 and Ultimate Wax held up well in Ottawa...during the polar vortex (LOL) that ensued last year. I did a mid-winter wax and it worked out well for the spring, I might put this one to the "test" with my car...

[Blueline]

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Read through the full seven pages and didn't see Michael answer this. Apparently the 365 can go over UW, however can UW be applied OVER this new 365 product?. Can M16, if I can get some, also go over this new 365? While I like the the protection this new product seems to offer, I prefer a deep gloss on my black cars that I get with UW (or M16) Thanks

[The Guz]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Read through the full seven pages and didn't see Michael answer this. Apparently the 365 can go over UW, however can UW be applied OVER this new 365 product?. Can M16, if I can get some, also go over this new 365? While I like the the protection this new product seems to offer, I prefer a deep gloss on my black cars that I get with UW (or M16) Thanks

From what I understood listening to Mike Stoops and Mike Pennington you could top it but the surface tension is now changed and the beading characteristics will be that of the topper. Sort of defeating the purpose of the product. That's what I got out of it. I'm not going to let the cat out of the bag but it does look good on a dark color. I'll let Mr. Stoops address that and what we saw when he feels the chance to share.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Read through the full seven pages and didn't see Michael answer this. Apparently the 365 can go over UW, however can UW be applied OVER this new 365 product?. Can M16, if I can get some, also go over this new 365? While I like the the protection this new product seems to offer, I prefer a deep gloss on my black cars that I get with UW (or M16) Thanks

From what I understood listening to Mike Stoops and Mike Pennington you could top it but the surface tension is now changed and the beading characteristics will be that of the topper. Sort of defeating the purpose of the product. That's what I got out of it. I'm not going to let the cat out of the bag but it does look good on a dark color. I'll let Mr. Stoops address that and what we saw when he feels the chance to share.

Theortically, yes, you can apply another wax on top of Paint Protect, but as The Guz points out, you'll lose the extreme beading of this product. As for the cat in the bag part, well, what can we say? R&D tells us that this product is all about the durability and less about the shine. Yet, when we applied it to the dark green hood of Ric's Caddy, there was a very noticeable darkening of the paint. Everyone saw it immediately in a taped off, side by side comparison of "naked" paint, and paint with a fresh application of Paint Protect. We're inclined to recommend that you apply your M16, Ultimate or whatever first, and then lay this down on top to get the best of both worlds. Having said that, we all perceive things a bit differently, so what looks good to you might not look the best to someone else.

[PullCounter]

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Any word of a melting point compared to carnauba / synthetic sealant? Is this a brand new technology, completely unique to Meguiar's and this new product?

Super cool stuff. I can't wait to try it.

[davey g-force]

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I've never heard of waxes / sealants compared by their melting points before!

[Homer]

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Can we mix a little Paint Protect and Ultimate Quick Wax to increase the durability of UQW?