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  • Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

    Originally posted by The Guz View Post
    On light colored cars it won't matter. I did ultimate wax, m21 and 365 side by side on silver and there is no distinct difference in appearance. The gloss came from using M205 to prep the surface. I would expect this on lighter colors.
    This brings up a good point. Gloss is mostly in the prep work.

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    • Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

      Paint Protect darkened the paint on my emerald green hood when we tested it next to UPW. We all saw it.. [Detailing Art, The Guz, and many others] So as far as it making a positive difference in the looks department I'd have to say yes it does, at least initially. I'd have to say it's due to the carrier oils in the product. But dang they sure made a noticeable difference. Period.

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      • Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

        Originally posted by Eldorado2k View Post
        Paint Protect darkened the paint on my emerald green hood when we tested it next to UPW. We all saw it.. [Detailing Art, The Guz, and many others] So as far as it making a positive difference in the looks department I'd have to say yes it does, at least initially. I'd have to say it's due to the carrier oils in the product. But dang they sure made a noticeable difference. Period.
        I noticed this effect as well.

        Update on the daily beater:

        Washed it for the first time in like a month yesterday (treating it like a normal person would.... for the most part).

        Beading shots were after I had done a pooling rinse, so not the best example, but still seems to be holding up very well. Hood was the the only part that didn't have PP365 on it, just D156 as a control for the test. Ended up compounding the hood with some AP Compound, then applying PP365 to the hood as well.

        Roof:


        Hood:


        Full car shot:


        Engine bay cleanup shot for good measure. Hyperdressing @ 3:1 seems to work well for engine bays and wheel wells.

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        • Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

          What kind of car is that?^

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          • Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

            Originally posted by Eldorado2k View Post
            What kind of car is that?^
            Nissan Pathfinder

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            • Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

              Maybe a question for Michael Stoops, but I'll take comments from anyone. Theoretically, would washing in a tunnel wash significantly shorten the lifespan of PP365 vs a hand or rinseless wash with a Meguairs product?

              I ask because winter time here in Minnesota for me means tunnel washes and I suspect the soaps used in them are fairly concentrated.
              2019 Ford F-150 XLT SPORT 4X4 Ecoboost

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              • Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

                Originally posted by fordf150 View Post
                Maybe a question for Michael Stoops, but I'll take comments from anyone. Theoretically, would washing in a tunnel wash significantly shorten the lifespan of PP365 vs a hand or rinseless wash with a Meguairs product?

                I ask because winter time here in Minnesota for me means tunnel washes and I suspect the soaps used in them are fairly concentrated.
                It's doubtful that the soaps are highly concentrated as that would mean more money spent by the establishment. Plenty of tunnel car washes use our soaps and they definitely are NOT harsh. But what is, or can be, harsh is the physical, mechanical action of the brushes that work in conjunction with the soap to clean the car. Remember, those things can and will scratch paint if not properly maintained, and proper maintenance through a Minnesota winter is tough!

                Drive through touchless washes are a whole different story. While there is no mechanical action used to remove dirt from the paint surface, they do use harsh detergents and/or a combination of an acid wash/alkaline rinse. That one-two punch of pH extremes will strip any wax or sealant pretty darn quickly.
                Michael Stoops
                Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

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                • Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

                  Thanks Mike. We have both the touchless and the ones that use (not brushes) but rather what appears to be strips of cloth of some sort. Totally get the Physical action of the touch style washes on the paint. I have been pretty diligent about doing a really good detail, especially in fall before the temps start getting cold with a good sealant such as UPW in the past and have noticed that it does hold up fairly well deep into winter. Earlier this summer i applied some PP365 for the first time roughly mid June and while i still see decent beading as of now almost 3 months, it doesn't see nearly as many washes as would be the case during winter months with the amount of product they put on the highways around here. Just trying to decide which might be the better product to get thru a Minnesota winter.
                  2019 Ford F-150 XLT SPORT 4X4 Ecoboost

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                  • Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

                    A relative newbie to the detailing world.

                    My Results with Paint Protect on my 2011 RAM 1500 SLT in Deep Cherry Red. One thing of note here, while I was applying the Paint Protect I got a bit of it on one of my black plastic parts, and it actually looks just as good as if I had used the Ultimate Black Restorer on it, so I actually wound up taking my bottle of the Black Restorer back to Oriley's (sorry Meguiar's you made a dual duty product in Paint Protect ) The beading pictures were taking 2 hours after application as it rained here in Ol Omaha NE, that day.

                    Process: Truck was compounded a year ago, Scratch X 2.0 was used where necessary, multiple washes to ensure everything was cleaned before using the clay kit, Ultimate Polish, then Paint Protect. (I would still like to top this with some Gold Class wax)

                    First two pics were taken the day after the beading pics below.




                    I am definitely impressed with the beading ability of Paint Protect (note that I couldn't wait the 24 hours before full cure cause it rained just 2 hours after finishing the application.)


                    The shine that it puts on black plastic is just great, and obviously beads like mad.




                    A few glamour shots, had to wait to do them cause buddy went and took off with my Hot Shine Tire Foam




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                    • Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability



                      Welcome to the forum.
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                      • Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

                        Originally posted by paulcr39 View Post


                        Welcome to the forum.
                        Thanks

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                        • Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

                          How does this work on gel coat?

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                          • Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

                            Small update on my truck. Washed it last week with Meguiar's Ultimate Wash and Wax, this is the result!!!!

                            Rest of the pics in this album, http://imgur.com/a/mjmnp

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                            • Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

                              Originally posted by Jomax View Post
                              How does this work on gel coat?
                              We'll.. I used it on my fiberglass truck cap and didn't have any problems.
                              2019 Ford F-150 XLT SPORT 4X4 Ecoboost

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                              • Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

                                For those that did not catch this live demo from David Pedre of Meguiar's.

                                Demo starts about 30 min

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