Paint Protect

[fordf150]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

yeah, but I was thinking more on the idea of whether it would bond to the paint better without the polish. Would the high content of polishing oils in UP affect 365 PP's ability to fully bond to the paint so to speak?

[fordf150]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Ive been told BY MEGUIARS, not necessary..

What's not necessary?

The polish is to bring out the gloss, then followed up with 365 to seal everything in. As I stated, would the high oil content in UP affect 365's ability to fully bond vs a thoroughly cleaned surface?

[DimensionAutoDetailing]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

What's not necessary?

The polish is to bring out the gloss, then followed up with 365 to seal everything in. As I stated, would the high oil content in UP affect 365's ability to fully bond vs a thoroughly cleaned surface?

Trust me, I asked the EXACT same question. I was told that the products are made to work together and that any sort of IPA or prep wipe is not necessary. The oils left behind from either M205 or UP WILL NOT effect the PP to bond, properly. Maybe Mike Stoops can chime in...

[The Guz]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Ive been told BY MEGUIARS, not necessary..

I stand by my statement about being user preference. If one decides to remove them then so be it. It won't hurt any thing. If one decided not to remove the polishing oils again it won't hurt anything. It all comes down to what someone feels comfortable with.

Now if someone is using another manufacturers polishes then I would more than likely remove those polishing oils just to be on the "safe" side.

What's not necessary?

The polish is to bring out the gloss, then followed up with 365 to seal everything in. As I stated, would the high oil content in UP affect 365's ability to fully bond vs a thoroughly cleaned surface?

This should make an interesting read for you.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/31186-miscible-immiscible-wax-paint-sealant-bonding.html

A little old but still applicable.

Just go from one process to the next, you don'th ave to wash the car in-between processes.

Wash --> Clay --> Clean --> Polish --> Wax


At least when using the Meguiar's product line as our chemist made all the products they know how to make each product build off the results of the previously applied product.

By staying inside a single product line there is Synergistic Chemical Compatibility. (SCC)

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

If you choose to use a polish prior to applying Paint Protect, whether that be machine application of M205 or hand application of M07 or any other recommended process using any Meguiar's polish or cleaner/polish, there is no need for an IPA wipedown prior to the application of Paint Protect. We have always said this about any of our waxes/sealants, regardless what other companies may state about theirs. If you're using a product that explicitly states in their directions to use a panel wipe of some sort prior to application then you should follow those directions. When staying within the Meguiar's lineup, there is no need to do this. That said, if you wish to use IPA or some other panel wipe prior to applying Paint Protect, that is certainly fine as well. You just don't have to.

[fordf150]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Got a chance to try the PP 365 today. Very easy to apply and wipe off and for that this product receives a 10 out of 10 rating. PP does seem a bit on the oily side when you apply, but after 5 minutes it wiped off effortlessly. Prior to waxing I polished the vehicle, which is a darker red color with Ultimate Polish and then used Ultimate Paste Wax on all but one half of the trunk which I used PP 365 in a comparison. I have to say if the UPW is supposed to leave a glossier finish than PP 365, than my eyes can't see it. No doubt some of gloss is due to the polish i applied before hand, but IMO they looked equal. The PP felt like a slicker finish after wipe off IMO.

For $10 It's a no-brainer for me.

[davey g-force]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Got a chance to try the PP 365 today. Very easy to apply and wipe off and for that this product receives a 10 out of 10 rating. PP does seem a bit on the oily side when you apply, but after 5 minutes it wiped off effortlessly. Prior to waxing I polished the vehicle, which is a darker red color with Ultimate Polish and then used Ultimate Paste Wax on all but one half of the trunk which I used PP 365 in a comparison. I have to say if the UPW is supposed to leave a glossier finish than PP 365, than my eyes can't see it. No doubt some of gloss is due to the polish i applied before hand, but IMO they looked equal. The PP felt like a slicker finish after wipe off IMO.

For $10 It's a no-brainer for me.

Nice, keep us updated with durability comparisons!

[DasBurninator]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Decided to detail the daily beater last night and picked up some PP365 to try out on it.

It turned out nice. A few comments:
It was almost like my applicator was catching and dragging on the surface. Way different feeling than when using a wax or sealant.
It was a bear to remove. I found the longer I left it the easier it was. Humidity was a bit more than normal yesterday here in CO. Could have played a role in that. It made me work for it.
Seems to look decent on trim. I'll see if that is just the carrier oils though in a week or so when I wash it again.

Obligatory daylight pic:

[The Guz]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Looking good. Keep us updated on how long it lasts.

[davey g-force]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Your beater looks better than 90% of the cars out there!

Strange about the removal of the product...

[DasBurninator]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Your beater looks better than 90% of the cars out there!

Strange about the removal of the product...

Thanks. The car has been in the family since new and I've always been the one to take care of it. It's far from perfect, but well maintained.

I'm almost wondering if my applicator was contaminated with another product. It was a clean app, but I've used it with another sealant before... I still haven't touched the hood. Maybe I will grab a new applicator and see if it does it again.

[The Guz]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

I noticed the removal to be a little more difficult than ultimate wax or M21 as it is on the more oily side.

[DasBurninator]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

I was having way more trouble than UW. Like having to chase residue down. Thought it was my towel at first, so I switched and got the same results.

It's rare that I get physically tired from taking off an LSP, but I was worn out last night. Going to grab a brand new applicator tonight and see if there was some cross contamination from the app I tried before.

[Coldazice]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Can this be used in place of wax or is wax supposed to be done also?

It says no rub, so how do you apply and take off if no rub.

Can or should this be applied to chrome and plastic chrome and cast aluminum stock wheels (motorcycle) not tires.

[The Guz]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

This is used in place of a wax.

It's applied like a wax but it doesn't haze. The bottle states it can be applied and removed within minutes. You can use it on those surfaces you listed.