Paint Protect

[Sleper]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Tried it on the weekend on my daily driver which is a dark grey Impala. it went on eazy but I could not get it to wipe off. Put in on with a rotary buffer. Only sprayed the applicator pad once and did the whole car. Made the plastic look great. finally washed the vehicle a second time to get the product off so that it did not look smeared? Tried wiping off 4 times with different cloths? Finally washed a second time? Thought possibly too much product but it should have wiped off NO?

[DasBurninator]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Tried it on the weekend on my daily driver which is a dark grey Impala. it went on eazy but I could not get it to wipe off.

I had similar issues with removal, but I was applying by hand. Thin coat. Curious what was the humidity like when you applied it?

[DasBurninator]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

D156 on the hood. About a week old


PP365 on the roof. About a week old.


On horizontal panels:


As far as the beading properties that I have seen so far with PP365, it is almost as good of beading as the CQuartz UK car I coated. I doubt it will keep up in the long run though.

[davey g-force]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

^^ wow that's good beading. Better than others I've seen with PP365.

[Sleper]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

I had similar issues with removal, but I was applying by hand. Thin coat. Curious what was the humidity like when you applied it?

Was not very humid. Even went for a 10 minute drive in the sun to take my son home. Looked at it again in the sun at lunch and you can still see some on the hood that has not been removed. Will wipe again tonight in garage when car is cool

[DasBurninator]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

^^ wow that's good beading. Better than others I've seen with PP365.

Yeah, it seems to be much better beading than what I have seen posted in tests on here and AGO... Much closer to what is advertised.

And at this point there shouldn't be any carrier oils on the surface. It has rained off and on for a solid 3-4 days here, so I can't imagine there being any left.

[Meticulous-Detail]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

I still haven't used my PP365 yet and based on reviews I'm not sure I will.

[The Guz]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

D156 on the hood. About a week old

As far as the beading properties that I have seen so far with PP365, it is almost as good of beading as the CQuartz UK car I coated. I doubt it will keep up in the long run though.

That's good beading. It took 4 months for me to see decent beading. I'm still 50/50 on 365.

I got the same beading results on the hood that's currently on the car and the factory hood off the car.

I still haven't used my PP365 yet and based on reviews I'm not sure I will.

You should at least try it one time on a small panel. Perhaps you will like it.

[flyinghammer]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

As you might imagine, this goes on quite thin so you'll get many applications from the bottle, just as you would with any other liquid wax.

Michael, which wash product that is best compatible with Paint Protect? The Gold Class Car Wash or the Ultimate Wash & Wax? Any other option that you would advise? I want something that works and is simple to manage on an ongoing basis.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Michael, which wash product that is best compatible with Paint Protect? The Gold Class Car Wash or the Ultimate Wash & Wax? Any other option that you would advise? I want something that works and is simple to manage on an ongoing basis.

It doesn't really matter - you can use any of our shampoos with Paint Protect.

[flyinghammer]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

It doesn't really matter - you can use any of our shampoos with Paint Protect.

Thanks for the quick response! I read the Gold Class Car Wash has a "conditioner" while the UWW has "wax". Is conditioner and wax the same? Could you elaborate a bit to shed some light so I can make the right decision? Thanks!

[gclark26]

Mike
In the detailing world most ppl want 2 things.
They want a clean car and want it shiny.
Now PP365 does not have the gloss of other Meguiars sealants and waxes but would you say the gloss is sufficient to make most ppl happy?

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Thanks for the quick response! I read the Gold Class Car Wash has a "conditioner" while the UWW has "wax". Is conditioner and wax the same? Could you elaborate a bit to shed some light so I can make the right decision? Thanks!

A conditioner, as included in Gold Class, would be ingredients that both preserve the existing wax you've previously applied and help to maintain the gloss level of that wax. They work to prevent any reduction of gloss from repeated use. A wax, such as found in UWW, is just that - a very small bit of added protection and gloss enhancement. Wash & Wax products that are clear in appearance (ie, you could read a printed sheet of paper while looking through them) use a soluble wax that is darn near impossible to get to stay on the paint when rinsed off. UWW is not clear because it uses a dispersed wax. If you wash in the shade on a cool surface and can leave it sitting on the paint a bit longer than normal (but not so long that it starts to self dry) and then rinse it off with just a steady stream of water from the hose rather than blasting it off with high pressure, you'll maximize the amount of wax that will be left behind. Now, don't expect this to be a substitute for a proper wax application, or that you're suddenly going to have extreme crazy gloss because of it. But if you're beyond picky about these sorts of things, this will help.

Mike
In the detailing world most ppl want 2 things.
They want a clean car and want it shiny.
Now PP365 does not have the gloss of other Meguiars sealants and waxes but would you say the gloss is sufficient to make most ppl happy?

Well, we all want our cars clean and shiny, but different people have different definitions for "clean and shiny". From personal experience, even when I think my car looks its worst, I still get compliments on how "clean and shiny" it is. Long ago I stopped rolling my eyes at these comments and just took the compliment. So, to the target audience of Paint Protect, it's more than glossy enough for them. We've said from the introduction of this product that it's all about protection and long lasting beading, and that it's not going to be the "prettiest" wax we make. Still, initial reviews ran counter to that gloss claim. Cool. For a hard core enthusiast, detailing weekend warrior, the kind of guy who's always chasing the very highest gloss level they can achieve.....it's probably not going to be their first choice.

[DasBurninator]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Well, we all want our cars clean and shiny, but different people have different definitions for "clean and shiny". From personal experience, even when I think my car looks its worst, I still get compliments on how "clean and shiny" it is. Long ago I stopped rolling my eyes at these comments and just took the compliment. So, to the target audience of Paint Protect, it's more than glossy enough for them. We've said from the introduction of this product that it's all about protection and long lasting beading, and that it's not going to be the "prettiest" wax we make. Still, initial reviews ran counter to that gloss claim. Cool. For a hard core enthusiast, detailing weekend warrior, the kind of guy who's always chasing the very highest gloss level they can achieve.....it's probably not going to be their first choice.

I'm actually pretty impressed with it on my daily beater... For someone who chases the best gloss I can get on my other cars, PP365 does pretty good on a daily. Just different expectations as Mike has stated.

I know its not going to be the greatest gloss, but from 20 feet it looks great. On the hood there is D156 on it as a control for comparison. The hood seems to get dirtier quicker. For whatever that is worth. Guess I should wash it and post an update this weekend.

[The Guz]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

On light colored cars it won't matter. I did ultimate wax, m21 and 365 side by side on silver and there is no distinct difference in appearance. The gloss came from using M205 to prep the surface. I would expect this on lighter colors.