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  • #1

    MF Correction System & Soft Paint

    Hello,
    After you do the correction with D300 & cutting MF; most likely on soft paint hazing will be exist. However, if I choose to remove the hazing by using D302, my questions are:
    1- what is exactly D302 do and what is the cutting level for D302. Is D302 can remove swirls or not or it just remove the hazing and prepare the surface for wax/sealant.
    2- Is really you recommend to use D302 rather than D301? Is D301 has the same cutting and polishing capability as D302.
    3- Is D302/301 have similar polishing capability as Meg 205.
    4- What is the cutting level, if any, for both D302/301.

    Thanks
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    Re: MF Correction System & Soft Paint

    Originally posted by mohebmhanna View Post
    Hello,
    After you do the correction with D300 & cutting MF; most likely on soft paint hazing will be exist. However, if I choose to remove the hazing by using D302, my questions are:
    1- what is exactly D302 do and what is the cutting level for D302. Is D302 can remove swirls or not or it just remove the hazing and prepare the surface for wax/sealant.
    2- Is really you recommend to use D302 rather than D301? Is D301 has the same cutting and polishing capability as D302.
    3- Is D302/301 have similar polishing capability as Meg 205.
    4- What is the cutting level, if any, for both D302/301.

    Thanks
    I can't comment on the D301/D302 as I have not used it. But this link has some good info on D302. In that thread it states the cut level is below M205.
    http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?60259-DA-Microfiber-Polish
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    • #3
      Re: MF Correction System & Soft Paint

      Very good information in the link, thanks much.

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      • #4
        302 has no abrasives. So it does cut less than 205.
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        • #5
          Re: MF Correction System & Soft Paint

          I think you'll find it does have a small level of cut.

          A bit less than UP according to the question I asked in that thread posted above by Guz.
          Originally posted by Blueline
          I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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          • #6
            Re: MF Correction System & Soft Paint

            Originally posted by davey g-force View Post
            I think you'll find it does have a small level of cut.
            as Psynx posted above, D302 is a pure polish -----> it has no abrasives in it.

            So whatever level of correction is taking place with the product, it is derived directly from the pad it is being applied from. It is recommended to be used within the DAMF system, more specifically with the Microfiber Finishing Disc.

            These were the words told to me by the lead product developer at Meguiar's Corporate.
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            • #7
              Re: MF Correction System & Soft Paint

              Since D302 is a pure polish (no cut), then if I used it with MF finishing disc I'll add a small amount of cut. Do you think if I used UP instead with soft buff 2.0 foam finish pad I'll get the same cut level. Do I understand the concept correct?

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              • #8
                Re: MF Correction System & Soft Paint

                Originally posted by Christopher.Brown View Post
                as Psynx posted above, D302 is a pure polish -----> it has no abrasives in it.

                So whatever level of correction is taking place with the product, it is derived directly from the pad it is being applied from. It is recommended to be used within the DAMF system, more specifically with the Microfiber Finishing Disc.

                These were the words told to me by the lead product developer at Meguiar's Corporate.

                Perhaps we need Mr Stoops to clarify. The below is from his post about the product:

                Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post




                Product Features:
                • Removes DA haze from D300 step on delicate clears
                • Solution for haze prone delicate clears
                • Super fine cleaner/polish
                • Perfect intermediate step in a 3 step scenario
                • Not paintable



                Part#: D30216
                MSRP: $17.20
                ^^ That to me suggests it does indeed have a small amount of cut. It is described as a Cleaner / Polish and it removes (not masks) DA haze.
                Originally posted by Blueline
                I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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                • #9
                  Re: MF Correction System & Soft Paint

                  Just watched a video on Autogeek this week involving D302. According to the Meguiar's folks in the video, D302 does have some cut. It's designed to clear up any haze in the paint after using the D300. Then your last step is the wax in D301. Just a thought - if you are working with soft paint, you might want to try the D302 first. You might get the correction and clarity you're looking for in one step. Then finish it off with D301 or the wax of your choice. The MF stuff is great!

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                  • #10
                    Re: MF Correction System & Soft Paint

                    Originally posted by davey g-force View Post
                    ... It is described as a Cleaner / Polish and it removes (not masks) DA haze.

                    ^ Agreed. And it is named a polish, not a glaze.

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                    • #11
                      Re: MF Correction System & Soft Paint

                      D302 was designed specifically to remove haze that can be created by D301/DMC5 pads on softer paints. It should be used with a DMF5 microfiber finishing pad and that pad must be fully primed before use. This is extremely critical with D302 as it acts sort of like a buffering solution for the cutting ability inherent in the microfiber pad itself. If you fail to properly prime that pad, and you've got really soft, delicate, touch sensitive, etc paint then you will potentially create even more haze, or at least not remove it to the degree you want.

                      On extremely sensitive paint, you may find that D302 works better on a foam finishing pad than on microfiber. We did a completely original 1990 Mustang with factory single stage black paint recently, using D300/W8207 foam polishing pad followed by D302/W9207 foam finishing pad and the results were truly fantastic. This paint was so soft that microfiber pads would have hazed it to a nice, dark gray. Not quite what we wanted to do. Even the yellow foam pad left a small amount of DA haze, but that was easily handled by D302 on a foam finishing pad.

                      Exactly how any car is going to respond to any of these combinations is something can only be determined with a test spot or two (maybe three!).
                      Michael Stoops
                      Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                      Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                      • #12
                        Re: MF Correction System & Soft Paint

                        Thanks Mr. Stoops.

                        before describing what I did this weekend; let me explain how it's started. 2 week ago I noticed kind of swirls on my jet-black BMW ( not all car but mainly in the hood); you know how senstive this paint is? Due to my time limited on the weekend I want to UC with hexlogoic green pad (5.5)/Meg's DA. The result was very satisfactory and I decided to go wright away to LPS, however, I noticed some hazing occurred in the hood and that was only noticble by the swirls finder "Brinkmann". This weekend I went to D302 with hex logic black finishing pad, based upon the information in this thread, and it clean & restore the surface very well from hazing. Next weekend I'll apply my LSP I haven't decide yet which one but I'm leaning towards UW or UW/GC.

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