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    Product Review: Meguiar's DA Power System
    Meguiar's DA Power System


    (Image Taken From Meguiar's Direct)

    Price:

    $59.99

    Introduction:

    Meguiar's always comes out with cool new products every year. I always look forward to the SEMA show every year not only to see amazing car builds and cool products but also to see what Meguiar's has up their sleeve. The last SEMA show was no different. Meguiar's introduced the DA power system formally and the product has intrigued me ever since.

    Our very own MOL administrator posted a thread on how to use the W9204 4" Softbuff 2.0 Finishing Pads to apply paste wax to your vehicle using a G110v2. The thread can be found here: Applying paste wax via G110v2 or other D/A. Ever since I saw that thread, I've always applied my paste waxes by machine now and I LOVE IT!

    Half a year or so ago, I moved to an apartment. I'm already having a hard time washing my car and moving caused me to try alternative ways of washing my car like rinseless and waterless. Because I don't have a power source in my parking spot, I am also forced to wax by hand. But ever since the DA power system came out, I wanted to get my hands on it mainly to use with a cordless drill so that I can apply my favorite Meguiar's paste wax to our vehicles without the need for power. At the same time, make my wax application a lot easier.

    The System:
    Meguiar's made this product into a system so that it will be easy for everyone to understand how to use it. As a detailer, you know that there is the paint cleaning or compounding phase, polishing phase and waxing phase. Meguiar's recommends a specific pad with a specific product for each of these phases and I think it's brilliant that they make it so clear. In fact, they even have individual products made for them. Each step of the system are:
    1. Compounding - Ultimate Compound and 4" Cutting Pad

      (Image Taken From Meguiar's Direct)
    2. Polishing - Ultimate Polish and 4" Polishing Pad

      (Image Taken From Meguiar's Direct)
    3. Waxing - Ultimate Wax and 4" Finishing Pad

      (Image Taken From Meguiar's Direct)


    There are various reviews and a quik tips video already out there so I'm not going to bore you with pictures of using the pad and liquid for each step/phase. One can easily watch the quik tips video and understand very quickly. Instead, I'm going to perform a comparison between the DA Power System and your traditional G110v2 DA polisher.

    The Comparison:

    Here are some close up pictures of the DA Power System in the wild.





    Like any product Meguiar's produces, this is a very high quality and well designed product. In order for this product to work, you need a corded drill. What you do next is open the drill's teeth attachment to its maximum, slide the DA Power System's spindle into the drill's mouth, then lock the drill as tightly as you can. After you're done with this step, this is what the product looks like attached to the drill:





    For this review, I was mainly interested in the capabilities of the DA Power System. A lot of questions were floating in my head. Is this system capable of serious defect removal? Is it easy to use as the DA polisher? Is it convenient? Etc. Well I'm going to try to answer as much questions as I can. Now on to the comparison. Here are the contenders:



    To make the comparison fair, I'm going to hold all variables constant. What I mean is that all the other factors that can affect polishing performance will be held equal between the 2 polishers. I'm going to use Ultimate Compound and the Softbuff 2.0 Yellow Polishing pads for both as shown:



    Here is a picture of the test subject:



    It's a swirled out door panel of my car. The swirls are much worse than you can see in the picture. I was having a hard time capturing the swirls because the light was flushing them out. Next, I taped the door panel into 3 sections as shown:



    The left side will be for the DA Power System, the center will be the control and the right will be for the G110v2 DA polisher.

    Now onto the test. Up first is the DA Power System. Again, I'm using this system with a yellow polishing pad with Ultimate Compound. What you do is apply a line of product onto the pad like so:



    Next, put the pad flat against the paint surface you're working on. Do not turn on the machine until you do this because it will sling the compound everywhere and create a mess. You don't want that. Always work clean! Polish the area you intend to work on making sure you do 50% overlapping passes.



    As you can see, the DA power system gives very uniform coverage and spreads out the product nice and even.



    Now, we do the same steps on the right side of the panel using the G110v2 DA polisher.

    Priming the pad:



    Working the product in and polishing the area intended:



    Uniform and even coverage:



    What are the results you might ask? Well I'll let the pictures do the talking.

    Here are the results from the DA Power System's side. I would say I achieved around 95% correction relative to the G110v2's side.



    Now here's the G110v2 DA polisher's side.



    They both look the same but the DA power system left a few deeper scratches. I wouldn't blame it on the system because they recommend using the cutting pad for this kind of work. I'm sure that if I equipped my power system with the said cutting pad, I will achieve the same type of correction as what I got in the G110v2's side. I'm sorry I didn't have any cutting pads at hand. But I think these results speak for themselves. The DA Power system is definitely capable of removing serious swirls and defects.

    My co-worker has some water spotting problem in his car and was asking for my advice on how to remove it. At first, I gave him ScratchX and told him to go to town with it. He came back and said it wasn't removing all of them and it was such a PITA to work the product in by hand. I thought this will be the perfect time to use the DA power system!!

    Here is the test vehicle. As you can see, water spots galore. I've already washed the vehicle at this point and the water spots weren't going anywhere.



    Again, I'm using Ultimate Compound with the yellow polishing pad. Before using it, prime the pad first as shown:



    Buff a small area at a time. Make sure you do 50% overlapping passes and apply pressure on the drill because you're doing defect removal. This is shown below:



    Here are the results after! I would say that we achieved 80-85% water spot removal. It would have been better if I had the burgundy cutting pads. How I really wished I had those pads at that time.



    Cross-Compatibility:

    I wanted to see whether this system will work with other manufacturer's 4" pads. For this test, I'm using the 4" Lake Country pads. I've attached them to the DA Power System and they look like this:





    I would say that there's approximately half an inch of gap in between the backing plate and the circumference of the pad's velcro attachment. It will work but if you're going to be using coarser pads for defect removal, you will not achieve its maximum potential. I guess if you're going to use a softer foam for waxing then it will be ok.

    I would still recommend using the Meguiar's DA Power Pack Pad Refills though. This is because these 4" pads have a tapering side. The face of the foam pad is 4" but the pad's backing where the velcro attachment is located measures about 3". This makes it a perfect fit for the DA Power System's backing plate.

    Now to show you the main reason why I bought this tool in the first place - waxing!!!!

    First, attach the black foam finishing pad specifically designed for waxing. This is shown below:



    Here's a picture of the finishing pad being dipped into a can of Ultimate Paste Wax. As you can see, it fits perfectly!!!



    Gently rub the pad against the wax to get some product into the face of the foam pad. This is what your pad should look like after:



    Like with everything, place the pad against the paint before turning on the drill. Since we are only waxing, very little pressure is required, if any. Also, there's no need for slow arm speed.



    The beauty of machine applying a wax. Uniform coverage and fast and easy application! This is shown below:





    Here are some beauty shots after I removed a coat of Ultimate Paste Wax that I applied throughout the entire vehicle:







    Opinions and Observations:

    As you can see, the DA Power System has the capability for serious defect removal. When matched with the burgundy cutting pad, I'm sure it will work wonders. I really like a lot of its features. I really like the rubber surrounding the lip of the Power System. This will prevent any scratching in the case you hit the paint of the vehicle you're working on. I've hit the paint twice already and I'm so thankful that this rubber feature is there for protection. (That just sounds weird LOL!) I also like the comfortable handle. It has a soft material making it comfortable to hold while buffing. Also, the handle's placement is great because this allows me to stabilize the Power System and the drill attached to it while buffing. I also like the forced rotation feature. I initially thought that this will have the motion of your traditional DA polishers. The forced rotation feels exactly like the Flex 3401's movement. This feature allows for better cutting capability and we've already proven that it has the ability to do so. The pad also spins/oscillates slower relative to the drill's RPMs. This is the gear reduction feature and it makes it extremely safe for the user to polish paint.

    Now I would like to talk about the comparison test I did above. Yes, the DA Power System's results look good and I'm pretty sure, it will equal the correction made if I had used the recommended cutting pads for defect removal. But I would say that because the pads are small, polishing took longer. The G110v2 took a shorter time because of its massive 7" pads. It covered a bigger area at a time. Also, the G110v2 has more power so I think it's getting more correction power from the motor itself.

    I would also like to talk about some minor downsides to this system. I really didn't like how wobbly it felt. The wobbling is directly proportional to the amount of pressure I was applying. When I was applying wax, I didn't have much of a problem with it. But when I was trying to remove the swirls and water spots, it made it harder to control. Also, I have a hard time holding the drill when buffing vertical panels. I think this is because of the leverage the drill causes. Buffing horizontal surfaces is a piece of cake!!! It's so easy to control the drill and the Power System when doing that.

    I absolutely love using the DA Power System when waxing and spot buffing!!! I'm so glad that I have this system because I think it'll be very useful and it will have its place in my tool arsenal. I'm sure there are situations that will make me reach for this tool instead of your traditional DA polisher equipped with 4" pads. In addition, it served my purpose of waxing my vehicles in the apartment by using a cordless drill. It did it exceptionally well I might add.

    As I mentioned before, the quality of this tool is exceptional.

    I'm sure that majority of the people will own a drill at home. If you're new to paint polishing and already have a drill then it would be ok to get this tool. But if you don't have a drill and plan on buying a new drill with the purchase of the DA Power System, I would highly suggest looking into getting the G110v2 DA polisher instead. This only applies when the cost is your only concern. But if you're afraid of the DA polisher then by all means get the DA Power System.

    Conclusion:

    This machine is a must have whether you are a seasoned professional detailer, a hobbyist or a person who's new into paint polishing. It definitely bridges the gap between dual action polishers and working by hand. If you are afraid to dive into the DA polisher and are tired of working by hand then this tool is for you. It will give you better results in less time and effort than working by hand. At the same time, give you swirl removal capabilities like the traditional DA polisher at a fraction of the price. I love this Power System of mine and I'm glad to obtain it. I'm pretty sure that you will not regret your decision in buying one.
    2011 Car Crazy Showcase SEMA Team

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    Re: Review: Meguiar's DA Power System

    Nice review Marc!
    Keeping MOL family friendly! If you need help or have a question, don't hesitate to shoot me an email or PM. 101impala@gmail.com
    Andy M. Moderator

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      Re: Review: Meguiar's DA Power System

      Originally posted by Andy M. View Post
      Nice review Marc!
      Thank you, Andy! Glad you enjoyed it.
      2011 Car Crazy Showcase SEMA Team

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        Re: Review: Meguiar's DA Power System

        HMMMMM I am thinking about the DA power system with a cordless drill as a way to apply wax....I have a cordless right angle dewalt drill that may work great for this.....

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          Re: Review: Meguiar's DA Power System

          Fantastic write up, Marc, thanks for taking the time to put this together! Great idea to do that side by side comparo where the only thing different was the tool itself. As you mentioned, yes, we do recommend our burgundy cutting pad for the compounding step, but your comparo was great because it took even that variable out of the mix and yet you still got excellent results.

          We don't necessarily expect the DAPS to live up to the capabilities of the G110v2, but for anyone terrified of a buffer but tired of working by hand, the DAPS is the perfect fit.
          Michael Stoops
          Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

          Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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            Re: Review: Meguiar's DA Power System

            Marc you still amaze me how you are able to put these things together. The documented steps are precisely made. Next I want to see your review of M101. Another comparison side by side with M105, UC...this would be amazing...

            BTW Marc I am a little surprised to see so many swirls in your daily.

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              Re: Review: Meguiar's DA Power System

              Originally posted by 97t-bird View Post
              HMMMMM I am thinking about the DA power system with a cordless drill as a way to apply wax....I have a cordless right angle dewalt drill that may work great for this.....
              It's great for applying wax. That's the main reason I got it.

              Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
              Fantastic write up, Marc, thanks for taking the time to put this together! Great idea to do that side by side comparo where the only thing different was the tool itself. As you mentioned, yes, we do recommend our burgundy cutting pad for the compounding step, but your comparo was great because it took even that variable out of the mix and yet you still got excellent results.

              We don't necessarily expect the DAPS to live up to the capabilities of the G110v2, but for anyone terrified of a buffer but tired of working by hand, the DAPS is the perfect fit.
              Thanks a lot, Mike! Appreciate the kind words and I'm REALLY GLAD that you like it.

              Originally posted by s word View Post
              Marc you still amaze me how you are able to put these things together. The documented steps are precisely made. Next I want to see your review of M101. Another comparison side by side with M105, UC...this would be amazing...

              BTW Marc I am a little surprised to see so many swirls in your daily.
              Thanks a lot, Chris!

              Yeah I haven't detailed my car yet ever since I got it last August. Just never had the time to do a full detail. If I was going to detail it, I want it to be a full blown detail and not rushed. I never had the time for a full weekend to do this. I'm planning to do this on March though. Stay tuned for the write-up then.
              2011 Car Crazy Showcase SEMA Team

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                Re: Review: Meguiar's DA Power System

                Originally posted by Marc08EX View Post
                Thanks a lot, Chris!

                Yeah I haven't detailed my car yet ever since I got it last August. Just never had the time to do a full detail. If I was going to detail it, I want it to be a full blown detail and not rushed. I never had the time for a full weekend to do this. I'm planning to do this on March though. Stay tuned for the write-up then.
                That's what I figured you are spending all your time on others cars or documenting things like this.
                Bring your car out to the TNOG on March 14th. I will be there. I can bring my own stuff and we can bang out a full detail. Shh don't tell Mike. I am sure we can get like 5 experienced guys on it and finish it within an hour. Do it!

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                  Re: Review: Meguiar's DA Power System

                  Great review Marc!

                  Originally posted by s word View Post
                  BTW Marc I am a little surprised to see so many swirls in your daily.
                  ^^ lol that's what I was thinking!

                  Also, your DAPS tool iteslf has swirls on it!



                  Better fix that! (sorry, just had to say it)
                  Originally posted by Blueline
                  I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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                    Re: Review: Meguiar's DA Power System

                    Great review on the DA power system, have you tried it with M101 & a burgundy pad yet?

                    I figure you got sooo many swirls on the DD from going to the bikini car washes at the gas stations...haha... btw, the car looks great
                    "STRIFE" aka Phil
                    2005 Infiniti G35 Coupe (IP/ aka White) the Toy
                    2011 Subaru Impreza (SWP/ aka White) the DD
                    2017 Subaru Forester (CWP/ aka White) Wifey's

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                      Re: Review: Meguiar's DA Power System

                      Originally posted by s word View Post
                      That's what I figured you are spending all your time on others cars or documenting things like this.
                      Bring your car out to the TNOG on March 14th. I will be there. I can bring my own stuff and we can bang out a full detail. Shh don't tell Mike. I am sure we can get like 5 experienced guys on it and finish it within an hour. Do it!
                      Too late!!


                      Bring your own stuff? We have a little bit of product here in the training garage but it should be enough to do Marc's car.

                      Now, if you have a specific buffer you really like feel free to bring that along, but otherwise we think we've got supplies pretty well covered!
                      Michael Stoops
                      Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                      Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                        Re: Review: Meguiar's DA Power System

                        Originally posted by s word View Post
                        That's what I figured you are spending all your time on others cars or documenting things like this.
                        Bring your car out to the TNOG on March 14th. I will be there. I can bring my own stuff and we can bang out a full detail. Shh don't tell Mike. I am sure we can get like 5 experienced guys on it and finish it within an hour. Do it!
                        I really wish I can go to the first TNOG of the year. Heck, I wish I can go to all of the TNOGs every year. It's just an awesome gathering with lots of cool people. If I just lived closer then it would be a lot easier.

                        Also, thanks for the offer man! That'll be a very cool picture to take.. Lots of people working in 1 car and completing it in an hour or two.

                        Originally posted by davey g-force View Post
                        Great review Marc!



                        ^^ lol that's what I was thinking!

                        Also, your DAPS tool iteslf has swirls on it!



                        Better fix that! (sorry, just had to say it)
                        LOL! You guys are too funny ROFL!

                        What pads do you think will work best to polish out my DAPS? Maybe the 1" GG polisher? Hehehe!!

                        Originally posted by STRIFE View Post
                        Great review on the DA power system, have you tried it with M101 & a burgundy pad yet?

                        I figure you got sooo many swirls on the DD from going to the bikini car washes at the gas stations...haha... btw, the car looks great
                        Again, hilarious responses guys!!! That's seriously awesome!!! Hahahaha!

                        I'm sorry but I haven't tried the burgundy pad yet. I wish I had some at hand. When I make an order, I will for sure add it and do the test. I don't think my co-worker can completely remove the water spots with the yellow pad.

                        Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
                        Too late!!


                        Bring your own stuff? We have a little bit of product here in the training garage but it should be enough to do Marc's car.

                        Now, if you have a specific buffer you really like feel free to bring that along, but otherwise we think we've got supplies pretty well covered!
                        We can use the stuff in the garage to completely detail my car?!?! SWEET!!!! I'll head on over then!!! hehehee!
                        2011 Car Crazy Showcase SEMA Team

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                          Re: Review: Meguiar's DA Power System

                          just curious.. I have a DA Power System to use for tight areas. I also have a PC with a regular 6 inch pad.

                          Most of the post says that a regular DA corrects better than the DA Power System. In this instance, should I get a 3 inch back plate for my PC and use it instead of the DA Power system? Which corrects better to tight area. DA Power System or PC with 4 inch pads if all other variables such as pressure and pads are the same.

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                            Re: Review: Meguiar's DA Power System

                            The DA with the 3" backing plate will definitely have more power IMO. However, the head of the DA (where you normally apply pressure) and the height of the DA will make it difficult to buff in tight areas. The DAPS might come in handy in these situations because it's smaller than the traditional DA. If you don't have any problems with spaces then I would say that the DA with a 3" BP will correct better.

                            This is just another tool in your arsenal. I prefer to use the DA with a 3" BP but if the DAPS will help me buff tight areas then I will use that.
                            2011 Car Crazy Showcase SEMA Team

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                              Re: Review: Meguiar's DA Power System

                              Originally posted by Blueline
                              I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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