Paste wax buffed quicker?

[prr]

I have shied away from waxing my cars, because I hated the extra hassle of applying it and then buffing it all off, after washing the vehicle. Man am I glad I didn't resort to a wash-and-wax solution, or even a spray wax. I found out on this forum that I should only be applying a small amount of wax, and waxing the car is enjoyable now that I quickly apply it, and then just as quickly buff it off. With just a small amount of effort, I can see very nice results.

I'm wondering--the last two cars I waxed were with Meguiar's liquid cleaner wax. Was the ease of taking it off, because it was a liquid (and not a paste)? Or was it that the ease of use was simply because I wasn't over-applying it? I'd hate to purchase a new container of paste wax, only to find that it was just as awkward to take off as the last container of paste wax I've been using the last few years.

[Murr1525]

Well, couple things going on here maybe...

- The only wax that is to be applied and removed immediatley is the Ult. Liq Wax. All the others should be applied and then allowed to dry. Still thin and easy to remove.

- Something like the Cleaner/Wax or ColorX might be applied a little thicker, if you need some more cleaning ability.

- The spray waxes are good, just as a booster, and not your main coat of wax.

The removal should not be any harder with a paste, but if the liquid fits what you like, you can stick with that too.

[prr]

Well, couple things going on here maybe...

- The only wax that is to be applied and removed immediatley is the Ult. Liq Wax. All the others should be applied and then allowed to dry. Still thin and easy to remove.

That's good to keep in mind. Waxing has always taken so long that my struggle has always been to remove it before it hardens and requires a lot of extra wiping to remove. But now just using a small amount of the Civic, yes it might not dry by the time I finish it. WIth my minivan it should not be an issue.

The removal should not be any harder with a paste, but if the liquid fits what you like, you can stick with that too.

The only reason why i like this liquied is that is has been so much easier than the paste, but from what you've said, what made it easier is not over-applying it--it has nothing to do with the substance itself. Looks like I'll just get whatever is cheaper then.

[Murr1525]

Well, at least with the Meguiars waxes, when they are applied thin and dry they are easier to remove.

Yeah, the only thing would be if you found the liquid or paste easier to apply thin.

[prr]

Yeah, the only thing would be if you found the liquid or paste easier to apply thin.

Now that I think about it.... with the liquid, I've just squirted a small amount onto the middle of the applicator pad. Putting the equivalent amount of paste onto my pad might be a tad more awkward.

Have some here found one or the other kind, easier to pour/scoop out?

[Murr1525]

You may do better giving the pad a gentle spin in the wax can rather than scooping.

[Michael Stoops]

It is extremely common for people to apply more wax than they should. But doing so only causes the wax to take longer to dry, and it can be much more difficult to remove. If you've ever seriously struggled to remove a hazed wax, you've simply just done it wrong. People hate hearing that, but it's true. We see it all the time in our Saturday Classes, and when we apply the wax properly thin we like to have someone who has complained about the difficulty of waxing in the paste handle the wipe off for us. That always gets the point across to them! Oh, and regardless how thick you apply the wax, only so much will remain behind to protect the paint, so a heavy application does not yield a thicker layer of protection - it only causes problems.

When you applied a properly thin coat of Cleaner Wax, it wiped off easily because you applied it properly. Simple as that, really. It doesn't matter if it's a liquid or paste, either. Now, some waxes are inherently more or less difficult to remove, but you can minimize that by applying a properly thin coat. Usually, however, those that are hard to work with are older formulations of heavy carnauba waxes, like our discontinued M16. That was a product that could be a real bugger to wipe off if you applied it thick and let it dry for a long time. But even that wax, if applied in a very thin coat, could be wiped off pretty easily. Still, modern formulations of both carnauba waxes and synthetic sealants, whether liquid or paste, should be a breeze to work with.

We did this article - How to apply a very thin coat of wax with a G110v2 - a couple of years back using NXT Tech Wax 2.0 applied with a DA buffer, but the same concept holds true when working by hand, with carnauba, synthetic, liquid or paste.

[prr]

It is extremely common for people to apply more wax than they should. But doing so only causes the wax to take longer to dry, and it can be much more difficult to remove. If you've ever seriously struggled to remove a hazed wax, you've simply just done it wrong. People hate hearing that, but it's true. We see it all the time in our Saturday Classes, and when we apply the wax properly thin we like to have someone who has complained about the difficulty of waxing in the paste handle the wipe off for us. That always gets the point across to them! Oh, and regardless how thick you apply the wax, only so much will remain behind to protect the paint, so a heavy application does not yield a thicker layer of protection - it only causes problems....

When you applied a properly thin coat of Cleaner Wax, it wiped off easily because you applied it properly. Simple as that, really. It doesn't matter if it's a liquid or paste, either.

Well you guys made a convert out of me, that's for sure. Am I glad I found these forums--I was thinking of swearing off traditional waxing forever, and just using those wash and waxes.

Anyways, last night I got my first bottle of CG Carnuba Plus (liquid)--like I said, I like the ability to squeeze out a small amount.

[Murr1525]

With a cleaner/wax first, applying the Gold Class as a second step is even faster.