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    new to (proper) detailing, where to start on faded lacquer paint

    I've got a 1965 GTO that I recently bought and am about to undertake the restoration of the paint. At the moment it has a red lacquer paint job on it that has seen better days, I am not sure of exactly how long but I know it has spent at least the last 5-10 years in a shed.

    I have always used the more consumer geared products before, but with this car I want to do it right but I'm not sure where to start. As far as tools I have a Makita rotary polisher but other than that I'm open.

    I'm including some pics of what the finish looks like right now and any suggestions on where to start are greatly appreciated. The pics didn't turn out as good as I thought but it still gives you an idea of what I am working with




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    Re: new to (proper) detailing, where to start on faded lacquer paint

    I'm not exactly sure how to deal with Lacquer paints as I have no experience with them. But I would suggest trying M80 Speed Glaze with a W8207 Softbuff 2.0 polishing pad and see where you get. You don't want to be too aggressive since the paint is old. You can also try using M07 Show Car Glaze by hand like it was done in a TNOG session for a Ford Model T.

    The polishing oils of both products should help revive that paint.
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    Re: new to (proper) detailing, where to start on faded lacquer paint

    Read this article: http://www.autotraderclassics.com/ca...ationId=352994
    It was written by Mike Phillips, a former trainer with Meguiars. I've done the process on the original lacquer of my El Camino and can testify to its effectiveness. The "moisturizing" done by force-feeding #7 into the paint makes a world of difference to single-stage lacquer. As an example, here's a split shot of my roof partway through the process:



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    Re: new to (proper) detailing, where to start on faded lacquer paint

    Yeah, often can be best to start off simple, and get it shined up, and see what you are dealing with first.

    #80 by hand or machine is great for that sort of thing, and the load of #7 method works also.
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    Would love to see some "after" shots.



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    Re: new to (proper) detailing, where to start on faded lacquer paint

    If this is the original factory paint do NOT jump right in with that rotary unless you are highly skilled with it. A DA buffer is going to be a much safer bet, and even then you may want to edge the entire car by hand first. "Edging" is a process whereby you hand apply your paint cleaner (M80 being a great choice on older single stage paints) by hand to the edges of all body panels, basically creating a clean "buffer zone" (no pun intended!) as much as 2" to 3" wide so as to keep the actual buffer away from panel edges when correcting the paint. Those panel edges have the thinnest paint on the car, and on cars of this vintage it is very common for them to not line up perfectly, with one sitting higher than the other. This exposes the edge to the side of the spinning pad, and you can take the paint off in the blink of an eye with a rotary. It's harder to create that problem with a DA, but unless you know the history of that paint rather intimately, we'd be very hesitant to even run a DA over those edges too often. Taping off the edges is all fine and well, but you'll need to address the area under the tape sooner or later, and just doing the edging by hand takes care of the issue.

    A DA with M80 and some polishing pads should do wonders for that paint, and a follow up with M07 by hand should then really bring up the color. But if you evaluate that paint very closely before you start, as you should, and you determine that there are some very thin spots, then hand application of M07 as outlined in the article BillyJack linked to is going to be your best bet for the entire project.

    Good luck with it, and please keep us posted along the way!
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    Re: new to (proper) detailing, where to start on faded lacquer paint

    Ok, so by the general consensus it looks like I will start by hand rubbing the M07 and if need be go back with m80 or m83 depending on what I am left with. It will probably be early next week before I get to the body but I will be sure to get some better before and after shots to post up. Thank Y'all, I'm sure you've made a difference in how it's going to look

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