Using a wax over Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 (#21)

[bec2557]

Can I apply a Carnauba wax over Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 (#21) and if so what will be the benefits - metallic black paintwork.

[dc2_]

Re: Using a wax over Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 (#21)

plus 2 i would like to know this as well lol

synthetic does last longer right?

[greg0303]

Re: Using a wax over Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 (#21)

It's okay to put a natural wax on top of synthetic wax (sealant) but not reverse.

Many detailers do it to have long protection as a base (sealant) and high gloss on top of it (carnauba).

Don't forget 12-hour cure time for the sealant.

[k3ith]

Re: Using a wax over Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 (#21)

...and if so what will be the benefits

The difference in appearance is the only substantial, potential benefit to topping a sealant. I say potential because it's only a benefit if you like the carnauba finish better than the sealant finish alone. It's personal preference. You can also try a product that includes both carnauba and sealant.

... - metallic black paintwork.

If your going to like the top'd look, it'll likely be on a dark color.

[dc2_]

Re: Using a wax over Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 (#21)

sorry to thread jack but synthetic sealent would be nxt?m26?how about uw?

what would be some carnuba waxes?

i usually use nxt...how long does synthetic last and how long would carnuba wax?

as if the car were a daily driver...car being clayed n everything...and being washed weekly or so

[prbrianpr]

Re: Using a wax over Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 (#21)

If I will go with meguiars sealant I will go with Ultimate Wax. I dont think that M26 yellow wax is a sealant.

[greg0303]

Re: Using a wax over Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 (#21)

If you like the gloss which carnauba (natural) waxes offer than you could put a coat of it on top of your sealant.

Synthetic waxes last longer. They form polymer cross-linking when they bond to a surface. Carnauba waxes form kind of a shell for protection.

Natural waxes are Gold Class Carnauba Plus and M26 High Tech Yellow Wax (has small amount of polymers).
Synthetic waxes (sealants) are Next Tech Wax 2.0 and M21 2.0 Synthetic Sealant.

Ultimate Wax is 100% synthetic. It offers longest protection, from all Meguiar's waxes, and increased gloss.

For daily drivers cleaner waxes work pretty well. They are all in one products (cleaning/ polishing/ waxing).
From least to most aggressive are: A12 Cleaner Wax, M20 Polymer Sealant, ColorX, M06 Cleaner Wax, M66 Quick Detailer and D151 Paint Reconditioning Cream. You can still put a coat of a finishing wax on top of a cleaner wax for better protection but it's not necessary.

[bec2557]

Re: Using a wax over Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 (#21)

Hi guys, thanks for the answers so far.

I now understand that I can apply a wax over Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 (#21) would anyone care to suggest what was would give the best finish on black metallic paint - looking for a deep wet look - M26 ???

[greg0303]

Re: Using a wax over Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 (#21)

My vote - M26.

[prbrianpr]

Re: Using a wax over Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 (#21)

I use M26 and is a great wax

[bmrfan]

Re: Using a wax over Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 (#21)

IMHO - for swirl free / haze free dark colors (like Black Metallic) - I find good quality Carnauba like M26 and Gold Class gives a better deep wet look.

Key thing is to have swirl free / haze free paint work otherwise Synthetic or Carnauba wax look the same.

[k3ith]

Re: Using a wax over Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 (#21)

26 is your best bet for topping 21 because it does not have a cleaner. As has been said, what you do before 21 is more important than what you do after. If the paint doesn't have a lot of defects - you can brush your teeth off the reflection from 205, 21, 26. I'll brag on 26 - http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums...ighlight=lexus

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Using a wax over Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 (#21)

Can I apply a Carnauba wax over Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 (#21)

Yes, you can, but you don't have to.

and if so what will be the benefits - metallic black paintwork.

This is where things get a bit less cut and dried. As others have noted, carnauba can impart a deeper, wetter look than some synthetics while the synthetics tend to leave a crisper, brighter shine. Neither final appearance is right or wrong, and in fact not everyone can even detect a difference. We all like what we like, and we all perceive things a bit differently.

[flakey]

Re: Using a wax over Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 (#21)

Reviving an old thread! I usually like to apply a good polymer sealant like Duragloss 105 and then top up with a good wax like Dodo juice for the depth and warmth. After using many sealants and waxes, I have found that this works best for me as I like the durability of a sealant and the look of a wax.

Now that I am gradually migrating to Meguiar's and discovering the range here, is there a single hybrid product that can probably do both the above steps in one? M 16 or Gold Class maybe?

[k3ith]

Re: Using a wax over Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant 2.0 (#21)

Reviving an old thread! I usually like to apply a good polymer sealant like Duragloss 105 and then top up with a good wax like Dodo juice for the depth and warmth. After using many sealants and waxes, I have found that this works best for me as I like the durability of a sealant and the look of a wax.

Now that I am gradually migrating to Meguiar's and discovering the range here, is there a single hybrid product that can probably do both the above steps in one? M 16 or Gold Class maybe?

Megs does have some blends like you mention. They work great and can stand alone. However, they are not the same, or similar really, to topping a sealant with a boutique wax like Dodo. Some believe in topping, some like the look of the sealant alone, and some use blends. It's really about what you like, how much time you want to spend, etc.