Dealing with older single stage paint

[margallar]

there is car in our family with stupidly soft paint, the car is a ten year old red single stage, suzuki. the paint is so soft that it would make my pad red whenever i would use gc on it. i tried meguiars cleaner wax on it by hand, the pad got red with paint and the paint on the car became too hazy. we tried some ultimate compound on it by hand and it failed. then i tried some glaze, (turtle hyper polymer), the glaze did not work well with a pad, in my frusration i tried to spead it a little with my hand and surprisingly the gloss becae excellent, then i went ahead and applied gc and voila the gloss was gone again. is there any way to make this paint co operate? btw i used liquid #26 on it and that worked, it did not remove paint

[Murr1525]

Could you take any pic of the car?

A pad turning red from single stage paint is pretty normal, soft or not.

[margallar]

ill post a pic in a day or two.

[Michael Stoops]

Any update to this issue with the single stage red?

[margallar]

very sorry for the delay guys, first my computer got damaged and then it rained for three days. anyways here is the car. it is a 13 year old suzuki swift sedan with worse than normal paint, but we can not get it repainted as cars depreciate in our area if repainted.

in this pic you can see that the paint on the rear quarter panel has become whitish. the door next to it is repainted so you can judge how it should look,

[margallar]

gc dries up almost as soon as applied on this paint, i have number 26 liquid with me which works a little better. but there is a cheap wax available in our area called 'cosmic', it is very oily but contains very little caranauba. when i apply that as a base and then use meguiars waxes over it then it then they respond a little better. it also greatly reduces the water spots. when i use gc on this car the pad turns very red but using cosmic paint transfer is almost none.

the only two waxes it likes is #26 and cosmic. temperature in our area is near 40 degrees Celsius and the sun is strong, waxes dont last more than a week here

[Murr1525]

A pad turning red does not mean the paint is soft, it means the paint is single stage. So nothing wrong there. And the more of a cleaner the product is, (or more aggressive the applicator) the more it will turn red.

It looks to me that it is the oils that you need.

Do you have any products like the Meguiars #7 Show Car Glaze there? Or #80 Speed Glaze?

[margallar]

A pad turning red does not mean the paint is soft, it means the paint is single stage. So nothing wrong there. And the more of a cleaner the product is, (or more aggressive the applicator) the more it will turn red.

It looks to me that it is the oils that you need.

Do you have any products like the Meguiars #7 Show Car Glaze there? Or #80 Speed Glaze?

they are not available in the local market but i can get them imported from one of the professional detailers

[imranhakro]

gc dries up almost as soon as applied on this paint, i have number 26 liquid with me which works a little better. but there is a cheap wax available in our area called 'cosmic', it is very oily but contains very little caranauba. when i apply that as a base and then use meguiars waxes over it then it then they respond a little better. it also greatly reduces the water spots. when i use gc on this car the pad turns very red but using cosmic paint transfer is almost none.

the only two waxes it likes is #26 and cosmic. temperature in our area is near 40 degrees Celsius and the sun is strong, waxes dont last more than a week here

Brother, this is due to single stage paint on car. GC has very mild cleaner properties in it thats why your applicator pad turns red. whereas, pure wax or pure sealant wont turn ur applicator pad's colour.

And Murr1525 is right. To bring back the Gloss you need M07 (I use M05, M05 tends to be more forgiving in high humidity locations (Karachi) than M07 is, otherwise they are similar.) . Use M07 librally (1 to 2 Coats) and seal it with ur Favourite LSP.

[margallar]

i tried #26 paste and it worked better than the liquid, i removed light dust with mothers QD and then applied #26, almost negligible paint transfer. depth is fine but i think i wont get reflectivity without abrasion