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    Re: G110V2 Pad not spinning

    Quote Originally Posted by SFC View Post
    Maybe I should have elaborated on my case specifically.
    My machine worked fine for about 6-8 months. I would in no way call it junk. It is a really good machine and I really enjoy using it. I know that the machine isn't a defective machine because it did work properly at one point. I also know that it isn't due to my technique because, again, it did work for me at one point.

    Now the pad will spin, but I have to actually lift the machine a bit. If I try to polish with just the weight of the machine then the pad will stop spinning and it then just vibrates. This happens on completely flat surfaces, so there is a problem. If anyone has any suggestions on what I should do to try and fix it, I would greatly appreciate it.
    thanks!
    Sounds like your brushes are burnt up

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    Re: G110V2 Pad not spinning

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash Gordon View Post
    Sounds like your brushes are burnt up
    Hmm...Let me switch them out. I will report back shortly to let you know if it fixes the situation.
    thanks!

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    Re: G110V2 Pad not spinning

    Well I switched the brushes out and it seemed to be running a lot stronger. I will take it in with me tomorrow and put it on some paint to know for certain.

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    Re: G110V2 Pad not spinning

    Yeah, if the brushes wear out then the machine will definitely not operate properly. I thought there would be a fail safe for the machine to shut off when the brushes were too worn out. Maybe I'm thinking of a different machine. Anyway, I hope that resolved the problem otherwise Meguiars Customer Service is fantastic.

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    Re: G110V2 Pad not spinning

    Quote Originally Posted by SFC View Post

    Now the pad will spin, but I have to actually lift the machine a bit. If I try to polish with just the weight of the machine then the pad will stop spinning and it then just vibrates. This happens on completely flat surfaces,

    It's kind of weird but if you take ANY of the DA Polishers, Meguiars, Griot's and PC, and hold the pad flat against the paint so it's just barely in contact, then turn the machine on, even on the high setting the pad will just vibrate and sometimes spin backwards.

    Then if you apply approximately 15 pounds of downward pressure the pad will start rotating.

    I've tested this numerous times because people post that their pads are not spinning with just light pressure and this is true... you're supposed to push down on the head of the tool to use it correctly.

    I've also demonstrated this in front of a full class of people.

    As for using the Meguiar's DA Polisher, it's vitally important that the pad be held flat, too much pressure on just and edge of the face of the pad can slow down and sometimes stop pad rotation.

    Pad rotation under pressure is slow, as Mike Stoops posted, it's not a rotary buffer.

    Smaller pads do work better as there's dramatically less surface area in contact with the paint.

    Thin pads rotate better also as proven by the Microfiber DA Pads. The 6.5 CCS pad you're using, like the Meguiar's 7" Soft Buff pads, are quite thick and it's the thick foam that absorbs the power coming out of the tools and dissipates it and this shows up visibly by anemic pad rotating ability.

    Run through this checklist of common mistakes and the remedies and see if you're making any of these...

    Tips & Techniques for using the G110, G100, G220 and the PC Dual Action Polisher
    (These are all similar tools)


    Here's a list of the most common problems
    1. Trying to work too large of an area at one time.
    2. Move the polisher too fast over the surface.
    3. Too low of speed setting for removing swirls.
    4. Too little pressure on the head of the unit.
    5. Too much pressure on the head of the unit so the pad quits rotating.
    6. Not keeping the pad flat while working your product.
    7. Too much product, too little product.
    8. Not cleaning the pad often enough.
    Here's a list of the solutions in matching order,
    1. Shrink your work area down, the harder the paint the smaller the area you can work. The average area should be and average of about 16" by 16" up to 20" by 20" or so. You have to do some experimenting, (called a Test Spot), to find out how easy or how hard the defects are coming out of your car's paint system and then adjust your work area to the results of your Test Spot.
    2. For removing defects out of the paint you want to use what we call a Slow Arm Speed. It's really easy to move the polisher too quickly because the sound of the motor spinning fast has a psychological effect to for some reason want to make people move the polisher fast. Also the way most people think is that, "If I move the polisher quickly, I'll get done faster", but it doesn't work that way.
    3. When first starting out many people are scared of burning or swirling their paint, so they take the safe route of running the polisher at too low of a speed setting, again... this won't work. The action of the polisher is already g-e-n-t-l-e, you need the speed and specifically the pad rotating over the paint as well as the combination of time, (slow arm speed), together with the diminishing abrasives, the foam type, and the pressure to remove small particles of paint which is how your remove below surface defects like swirls or scratches. It's a leveling process that's somewhat difficult because the tool is safe/gentle while in most cases, modern clear coat paints are harder than traditional single stage paints and this makes them hard to work on. This is also why people get frustrated, they don't understand paint technology, all they know is their paint swirls easy and getting the swirls out is difficult and thus frustrating.
    4. For the same reason as stated in #3, people are scared, or perhaps a better word is apprehensive, to apply too much pressure and the result of too little pressure is no paint is removed thus no swirls are removed.
    5. Just the opposite of item #4, people think that by pushing harder on the polisher they can work faster and be more aggressive, but the truth is the clutch in the tool is a safety mechanism to prevent burning and will cause the pad to stop rotating, thus less cleaning or abrading action and once in a while this will lead a person to then post on the forum something like this, "Hey my pad doesn't rotate". There needs to be a balance of enough pressure to remove defects and keep the pad rotating but yet not too much pressure as to stop the rotating action. This balance is affected by a lot of things, things like type of chemical, some chemicals provide more lubrication and the pad will spin easier, curved surfaces or any raise in body lines will tend to stop the pad from rotating. This is where experience on how to address these areas comes into play or you do the best you can and move on. It's not a perfect tool, nor a perfect system, but it's almost always better than working/cleaning by hand.
    6. Applying pressure in such a way as to put too much pressure to one side of the pad will cause it to stop rotating and thus decrease cleaning ability.
    7. Too much product over lubricates the surface and this won't allow the diminishing abrasives to do their job plus it will increase the potential for messy splatter as well as cause pad saturation. Too little product will keep the pad from rotating due to no lubrication and there won't be enough diminishing abrasives to do any work. Again it's a balance that comes with experience, or another way of saying this would be it's a balance that comes with hours of buffing out a car to learn what to do and what not to do. Information like what you're reading here is just an edge to decrease your learning curve. Hope this is helping.
    8. Most people don't clean their pad often enough and most of the time the reason for this is because they don't know they're supposed to clean their pad often and they don't know how to clean their pad. Again, that's why this forum is here to help you with both of these things. You should clean your pad after every application of product or every other application of product, your choice, most of the time cleaning your pad after every other application of product works pretty well. It enables you to work clean and enables the foam pad, the polisher and the next application of fresh product too all work effectively. How to clean your pad will be addressed below sooner versus later, but not at the time of this posting. (Sorry, I'm behind a keyboard, not a video camera
    The first 4 are the most common.

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    Re: G110V2 Pad not spinning

    Quote Originally Posted by SFC View Post
    Maybe I should have elaborated on my case specifically.
    My machine worked fine for about 6-8 months. I would in no way call it junk. It is a really good machine and I really enjoy using it. I know that the machine isn't a defective machine because it did work properly at one point. I also know that it isn't due to my technique because, again, it did work for me at one point.

    Now the pad will spin, but I have to actually lift the machine a bit. If I try to polish with just the weight of the machine then the pad will stop spinning and it then just vibrates. This happens on completely flat surfaces, so there is a problem. If anyone has any suggestions on what I should do to try and fix it, I would greatly appreciate it.
    thanks!
    If something has changed with the behavior of the tool then there is something amiss with the tool. Please contact Customer Care at 800.347.5700 to see about a replacement. And please accept our apologies for any inconvenience associated with this.
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    Re: G110V2 Pad not spinning

    Quote Originally Posted by SFC View Post
    Well I switched the brushes out and it seemed to be running a lot stronger. I will take it in with me tomorrow and put it on some paint to know for certain.
    Pretty sure that was your problem. Please let us know your results

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    Re: G110V2 Pad not spinning

    Hmmm, OP is in the town over - Makes me want to go over to see if it really is just a bad machine. I would assume something already posted in this thread is the sole reason of the pad "not spinning" though.

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    Re: G110V2 Pad not spinning

    Quote Originally Posted by mattya802 View Post
    Hmmm, OP is in the town over - Makes me want to go over to see if it really is just a bad machine. I would assume something already posted in this thread is the sole reason of the pad "not spinning" though.
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    Re: G110V2 Pad not spinning

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Stoops View Post
    If something has changed with the behavior of the tool then there is something amiss with the tool. Please contact Customer Care at 800.347.5700 to see about a replacement. And please accept our apologies for any inconvenience associated with this.
    I am glad to report that swapping the brushes has fixed the problem. I guess I didn't realize how much I had actually used the machine; easily a couple hundred hours over the course of 6-8 months.

    Big thanks to everyone for the responses and especially Flash Gordon for the fix!

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