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    Re: A Little Field Trip To Manheim Auctions

    Cool! I think our Honda dealership buys cars from there, if I'm not mistaken.
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    Re: A Little Field Trip To Manheim Auctions

    The original Manheim Auto Auction, Manheim, PA. A two day sale runs about 9-12000 cars in 23 lanes. One of the Recon buildings is in lower left. This Friday they ran 6,690 vehicles. Last Friday's count was 7,386.

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    Some of the local used car lots in Canada import cars from this place. I looked at a few 911's that came from the Manheim Auctions. Needless to say, these vehicles are prepared and repaired near to factory specs, which is impressive considering the scale of their operations.

    Michael, for their paint operations, do you know if these guys sand down the paint down to the bare metal before a repaint? Or do they simply roughen up the old paint for base coats? The industry standard for insurance repairs usually do not include sanding down to bare metal. I am interested to know the extent of their procedures. Do you know if they would document any repaint jobs on the papers just so that new owners would know that their new used cars have been previously repainted? Thanks!

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    Re: A Little Field Trip To Manheim Auctions

    Quote Originally Posted by the_invisible View Post
    Some of the local used car lots in Canada import cars from this place. I looked at a few 911's that came from the Manheim Auctions. Needless to say, these vehicles are prepared and repaired near to factory specs, which is impressive considering the scale of their operations.

    Michael, for their paint operations, do you know if these guys sand down the paint down to the bare metal before a repaint? Or do they simply roughen up the old paint for base coats? The industry standard for insurance repairs usually do not include sanding down to bare metal. I am interested to know the extent of their procedures. Do you know if they would document any repaint jobs on the papers just so that new owners would know that their new used cars have been previously repainted? Thanks!
    My two cents: From my experience, it depends on the particular job. As a rule, sanding down to bare metal would be a rare event; labor intensive as well as no practical reward for the effort.

    There is no document that would be in transfer of ownership papers that would mention body or paintwork unless the vehicle has a branded salvage/rebuilt title. I'm not sure what the rule is now, but in the past, the seller was only required to announce paintwork on a current model year vehicle, i.e. 2010 as of the moment.

    If the auction were to announce paintwork on vehicles that came out of their recon shop, that shop would have absolutely zero body and paint customers. Keep in mind, the auction is selling ancillary services, but they are not selling any vehicles, the sale is between the buyer and the seller. The auction simply acts as the middleman for the money and the transfer of ownership to the next dealer.

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    Re: A Little Field Trip To Manheim Auctions

    BTW, Invisible, Manheim has an auction outside Toulouse in Blagnac and one closer to you in Antwerp.

    http://www.manheim.fr/cms/propos/index.html

    I don't read French all that well, but with the help of Google Translate, I gather the French facility does everything their US counterpart does except the auction itself is online.

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    Re: A Little Field Trip To Manheim Auctions

    That place is crazy big. Interesting indeed. Thanks for the share Mike.
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    What a awesome place. The set up is incredible. Thanks for sharing, Mike.
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    Wow thats really something, Its great they are using the meguiars DA. With the lousy economy a more and more people are holding onto their cars and/or buying used cars. Heck the prices of the new cars have been inflated so much, I think it makes a lot more sense now to get a pristine used one for like half the price

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    Re: A Little Field Trip To Manheim Auctions

    Quote Originally Posted by seth1066 View Post
    My two cents: From my experience, it depends on the particular job. As a rule, sanding down to bare metal would be a rare event; labor intensive as well as no practical reward for the effort.
    And that sums it up pretty well. When the vehicles come in off lease, they are technically owned by the manufacturer. Many manufacturers actually have reps on site who make the determination, on a per vehicle basis, what needs to be done and to what extent. We don't have any more specific information on the repair/repaint process though.
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    Re: A Little Field Trip To Manheim Auctions

    Just a quick question: Do they clay the cars? or go straight from wash to DA?

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