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  • Rinseless TIRE/WHEEL Wash-experimenting: suggestions?

    This is what I tried out this morning on my tires/wheels. My SoCal condo = water restrictions. I need to figure how to clean with the minimum effort/time for an eventual detail.

    88 Honda Civic.
    Tools:
    -One gal garden sprayer + 2 oz ONR (double strength)
    -Brush
    -APC 10:1
    -Terry towels (cheap)


    1. Sprayed wheels/tires with ONR
    let dwell;
    agitated w. ONR'd brush

    2 Sprayed APC
    let dwell;
    Agitated w. APC'd brush
    Rinsed w. ONR; wiped with ONR dampened Terry

    3. Repeated for missed areas.

    Sucked.


    (Well......much better than a car-wash, but, not prepped for a cleaner or LSP.)
    Success is never final, failure is never fatal. It's courage that counts.
    by John Wooden

    '88 Honda

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    Re: Rinseless TIRE/WHEEL Wash-experimenting: suggestions?

    It's going to be tough to prep the wheels and tires using rinse less methods. I think that may be your best approach for now though.

    I once put swirls in my paint just to see what it looked like.

    I don't always detail cars, but when I do, I prefer Meguiar's.
    Remove swirls my friends.

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    • #3
      Re: Rinseless TIRE/WHEEL Wash-experimenting: suggestions?

      It's very likely you were dealing with a pretty bad wheel/tire combo to start with.
      My wheels are never that difficult to clean with just ONR left from cleaning the rest of the vehicle and a Meguiar's body brush.
      Tires are done with a competitors tire cleaner and a nylon brush.

      I think the one thing I would have done differently was use the APC first to get the first layer off, then followed with the ONR.

      The terry towels are what I use as well and if they get too cruddy, I just pitch them.
      Charles
      The Rainmaker

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      • #4
        Re: Rinseless TIRE/WHEEL Wash-experimenting: suggestions?

        I do tires last with rinseless and use APC on wells and tires. I usually can just wipe the wheels (personal vehicles) since I wax them to keep brake/grime build up to a minimum. I have used a bit more water to rinse down the wells and wheels to remove the APC.
        Al
        ~ Providing biased opinions

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        • #5
          Re: Rinseless TIRE/WHEEL Wash-experimenting: suggestions?

          I dont know, I like to get the wheel, tire, and well extremly clean so I dont know how effective a rinseless method could possibly be.
          Nick
          Tucker's Detailing Services
          815-954-0773
          2012 Ford Transit Connect

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          • #6
            Re: Rinseless TIRE/WHEEL Wash-experimenting: suggestions?

            I haven't mastered the secret of wheel cleaning with ONR and prefer to use the hose for wheels and tires, when possible. But Scottwax has done a couple of videos that you may find useful:
















            Substitute Megs' APC for Optimum Power Clean.
            Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
            --Al Kimel

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            • #7
              Re: Rinseless TIRE/WHEEL Wash-experimenting: suggestions?

              After watching all three of those videos, I have a strong urge to go and clean a set of wheels and tires.
              Nick
              Tucker's Detailing Services
              815-954-0773
              2012 Ford Transit Connect

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              • #8
                Re: Rinseless TIRE/WHEEL Wash-experimenting: suggestions?

                The trick is to stay after them. I know it is not always practical especially on a customer's car. I have found quik Wheel Detailer does a very good job. You may have to go over them twice, but it does the job.
                quality creates its own demand

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                • #9
                  Re: Rinseless TIRE/WHEEL Wash-experimenting: suggestions?

                  Originally posted by Tuck91 View Post
                  I dont know, I like to get the wheel, tire, and well extremly clean so I dont know how effective a rinseless method could possibly be.
                  Originally posted by Tuck91 View Post
                  After watching all three of those videos, I have a strong urge to go and clean a set of wheels and tires.
                  So......
                  Would you consider those wheels to be clean enough for you?

                  Rinseless washes aren't going to do the same job as easily as a hose and bucket wash on extremely dirty vehicles.
                  Hose and bucket washes won't do the same job as easily as a good pressure washer.
                  But, whatever method you use, the job can be done.
                  Charles
                  The Rainmaker

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                  • #10
                    Re: Rinseless TIRE/WHEEL Wash-experimenting: suggestions?

                    Originally posted by CharlesW View Post
                    So......
                    Would you consider those wheels to be clean enough for you?

                    Rinseless washes aren't going to do the same job as easily as a hose and bucket wash on extremely dirty vehicles.
                    Hose and bucket washes won't do the same job as easily as a good pressure washer.
                    But, whatever method you use, the job can be done.
                    I tried to add this, but the one minute rule seems to include typing as well as deciding to edit. (As said earlier, weird rule)

                    Anyway, I find the benefits of rinseless washing to far outweigh any negatives.
                    That may not be true for others.
                    Charles
                    The Rainmaker

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                    • #11
                      Re: Rinseless TIRE/WHEEL Wash-experimenting: suggestions?

                      I meant that my procedure sucked, NOT the products. I am going to try it again, keeping in mind the suggestions.

                      My friend abuses her car and the wheels were really bad. I figured if I could come up with an idea that would deal with grunge that bad, it would work on anything.

                      I will try the APC first, then rinse with the ONR...
                      Success is never final, failure is never fatal. It's courage that counts.
                      by John Wooden

                      '88 Honda

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                      • #12
                        Re: Rinseless TIRE/WHEEL Wash-experimenting: suggestions?

                        Originally posted by Bunky View Post
                        ...I wax them to keep brake/grime build up to a minimum.
                        That's going to be on my list of ideas.
                        Success is never final, failure is never fatal. It's courage that counts.
                        by John Wooden

                        '88 Honda

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                        • #13
                          Re: Rinseless TIRE/WHEEL Wash-experimenting: suggestions?

                          Originally posted by Tuck91 View Post
                          I dont know, I like to get the wheel, tire, and well extremly clean so I dont know how effective a rinseless method could possibly be.
                          I have a feeling that you have the experience to figure out a way if you had to. To put on an LSP, rinseless might not cut it. I may have to use a dedicated wheel cleaner instead of APC.
                          Success is never final, failure is never fatal. It's courage that counts.
                          by John Wooden

                          '88 Honda

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                          • #14
                            Re: Rinseless TIRE/WHEEL Wash-experimenting: suggestions?

                            As others have pointed out, really nasty wheels just don't bode well with a rinseless wash. Heck, getting REALLY neglected wheels clean is tough enough with a pressure washer and products at times.

                            But, for maintaining wheels I find either 10:1 APC+ or Meguiar's Quik Wheel Cleaner to be really fantastic. Quik Wheel Cleaner is really a seriously under rated product for doing quick and easy wheel cleaning. It is high in lubrication and has a fantastic amount of cleaning power for wiping away brake dust with ease.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Rinseless TIRE/WHEEL Wash-experimenting: suggestions?

                              I wish I'd seen the videos before I attempted this. I only diluted Megs APC 10:1,

                              Thanks for Scottwax Vids. I guess grunge means a good Megs wax. Or spray wax applied to a towel? Provided I keep up with a detailer.

                              You know, I am going to pick up some Qwik Wheel Cleaner and save the Megs APC for the Tires and wheel wells. I will get some Qwik Wheel detailer too.
                              Success is never final, failure is never fatal. It's courage that counts.
                              by John Wooden

                              '88 Honda

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