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    Cleaned 1939 Dodge D11 Luxury Liner Deluxe today.....some pics for questions!!

    OK guys, as i said, i washed the 1939 Dodge D11 Luxury Liner Deluxe today and it cleaned up really, decently well, considering how it looked beforehand, but the paint surface/finish is still NO WHERE where id like it, as youll see in pics later.

    Heres the process i used for the cleaning

    Tires: Westleys Bleche-Wite

    Wheels: Megs Hot Shine All Wheel Cleaner

    Wash: Megs Gold Class, 2BM

    Anyway, i sure am glad i found out about the 2BM because my rinse bucket literally, looked like someone had stirred up a bottom of a lake!!!! The water was a darkish brown and was just, VERY cloudy, and gross. I didnt get any before pics really, but heres some pics i took 3 or 4 wks ago before i had washed it yet, you may or may not be able to see the grunge on the car

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    Heres some pics of the paint surface after a THOROUGH washing....still VERY contaminated/embedded junk as well as some areas where the paint has chipped/flaked off and has some surface rust as well as an area where MOSS has gorwn on the car where the fender meets the body. Youll also see some pictures with small scratches that are black, which i assume mean theyre filled with some sort of grunge....These scratches you will see are on EVERY horizontal and some vertical surfaces of the car, and since theyre "filled" with a black something, maybe dirt, theyre super easy to see and i cant get them to go away. Maybe someone as seen them and has some suggestions on what they are/how to get rid of them? Also, youll see some VERY dull paint

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    The Moss:





    Heres a couple pics i did of a test spot by hand on the front corner of the nose/grille. Process was SS Clay, 2x UC, 1x SwirlX 1x NXT Tech Wax 1.0. Still not at ALL where id like it to be, but i think a DA will help that significantly.

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    So please guys, give me ideas on what i need to get this car looking a LOT closer to 100% than it is now....i know i will need a machine, but beyond that, what pads, products etc. should i get to complete this and make it look good again.


    Thanks!
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    Zach Hall

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    Re: Cleaned 1939 Dodge D11 Luxury Liner Deluxe today.....some pics for questions!!

    This looks like a job for Bounty, ClearlyCoated, Tuck91, Presidential or Mike P. I would think because the paints looks cracked that wet sanding or repainting is the only option. But I would try M105+UC+M205+NXT 2.0x2 using the DA. And maybe throw in some ColorX. Let the other guys weigh in first before you jump in. Oh, never seen moss grow on a car. Also, you might want to start with CLAYING the **** out of the car. Keep us posted.
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    Re: Cleaned 1939 Dodge D11 Luxury Liner Deluxe today.....some pics for questions!!

    wet sanding/repainting is what i was afraid i was gonna hear
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    Re: Cleaned 1939 Dodge D11 Luxury Liner Deluxe today.....some pics for questions!!

    The paint is badly checkerd. A real fix is a full repaint. You can restore some areas that is not damaged, but the cracked area is beyond restoration. I think what you did brought the existing paint condition to its maxium potential.
    Very nice classic.

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    Re: Cleaned 1939 Dodge D11 Luxury Liner Deluxe today.....some pics for questions!!

    awwww MAN! lol
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    Re: Cleaned 1939 Dodge D11 Luxury Liner Deluxe today.....some pics for questions!!

    Quote Originally Posted by CumminsCrazed View Post
    awwww MAN! lol
    Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings but it's actually worse than that. Beyond simply having paint beyond repairable condition, there is rust that needs to be adressed immediatly before it spreads.

    There is no way to save the original paint but original body panels are even more important...and these need media blasting and rust elimination immediately. They then need to be primed and repainted using original-style single stage methods to maintain as much value as possible.

    Going through this same process now with a 1971 Barracuda Convertible my uncle just purchased so I feel the owner's pain...

    If the owner is absolutely dead set on keeping the original paint then stay away from any machines. You're going to want to use a product like Meguiar's Paint Cleaner which uses chemical cleaners rather than mechanical abrasives. Any time you touch a single stage paint you are removing some of it. In this case your goal is to remove as little as possible. Going with a polisher and a heavy-cut compound like M105 will get you down to the metal in a hurry!

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    Re: Cleaned 1939 Dodge D11 Luxury Liner Deluxe today.....some pics for questions!!

    that paint is beyond fixing
    All I would do is a light rub out with 105/205 combo and a coat of NXT.
    Just do a light cleaning and wax it will look better.

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    Re: Cleaned 1939 Dodge D11 Luxury Liner Deluxe today.....some pics for questions!!

    Not much to do on this. About all you can do is maintain it. It needs the rust repaired, new ss paint job. Sorry.
    quality creates its own demand

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    Re: Cleaned 1939 Dodge D11 Luxury Liner Deluxe today.....some pics for questions!!

    that paint is def. not original Bounty.....The car used to be a militaryish style green with possibly black fenders? You might be able to see some of the green in a couple pics shown below....

    Can somewhat see green on bottom door jamb/rocker panel

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    Re: Cleaned 1939 Dodge D11 Luxury Liner Deluxe today.....some pics for questions!!

    Quote Originally Posted by CumminsCrazed View Post
    that paint is def. not original Bounty.....The car used to be a militaryish style green with possibly black fenders? You might be able to see some of the green in a couple pics shown below....
    That's actually good news...now you can recommend the single stage repaint. The entire car needs to be media blasted to remove old paint and rust. Then a coat of primer will be applied and the car painted with either single-stage or base coat/clear coat paint. You can get the post-body shop detail after it's done. You can have them spray on some extra clear coat and do the entire wetsand and orange peel elimination job (easily a few days) for a big money ticket or if they go single stage do an entire hand rub and later on protection (after paint has outgassed).

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