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  • What is min temp to wax/seal in?

    I live in WI and would like to protect my vehicles Mid Winter. One 08' F250 white plowtruck which gets many rust microdots which I recently found out are IFO and need to clay. Anyway, I have #20 sealant and carnuba wax. Can I achieve good results in say 40 deg and sunshine? Or I am a fruitcake to do such? Seems to work when I waxed with generic product previously.

    Thanks,

    Lance

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    Re: What is min temp to wax/seal in?

    If memory serves, I think the ideal degree is 55 degrees, not sure if that's the surface of the paint or outside temp.....

    We've had some cold weather too and been itching to detail up my cars!
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      Re: What is min temp to wax/seal in?

      What temperature ranges are best for applying cleaners, polishes, and waxes




      When we talk about surface temperatures, we need to consider three factors:
      • Surface Temperature
      • Ambient Temperature
      • Relative Humidity
      • Surface Temperature (Actual surface temperature of the vehicle)

      The best surface temperature range for applying cleaners, polishes, and protectants is approximately 60 degrees to 80 degrees Fahrenheit. More importantly, the surface does not feel warm or hot to the touch.

      Basically, when you're working within this temperature range, it's not too cold, and it's not too warm to realize exceptional results from just about any Meguiar's product.

      Meguiar's products will work easily within a much broader temperature range, such as, 50 degrees to 90 degrees Fahrenheit, but guaranteed best results will be achieved in the 60 degrees to 80 degrees range.

      Ambient Temperature (Outside temperature)
      Ambient temperature is the room temperature or the temperature of the surrounding environment. It's easily possible to have between 10 to 50 degrees difference in ambient temperature compared to surface temperature. This can make the difference between a product that's easy to work with, or hard to work with. Keep in mind, the hotter the ambient temperature, the quicker products will dry.

      Humidity (Moisture in the air)


      Simply put, humidity is moisture in the air. Technically there is Relative Humidity and Absolute Humidity, but as it relates to:
      • Applying
      • Working with
      • Curing, drying, hazing
      • Wipe-off or removal of car care products.
      The simple explanation of moisture in the air, or more specifically, the amount of moisture in the air is the major factor, which will affect how easily or potentially difficult a product will be to work with, or a procedure will be to perform.

      Low humidity, in warm to hot temperatures, will act to cause liquids to evaporate and dry more quickly. This can make a product difficult to work with or decrease the amount of time the product remains easily workable on the surface.

      High humidity in cold temperatures can make products hard to work because it can dramatically increase the amount of time necessary for the product to cure, dry or haze (depending on which product you're using).

      Low humidity in low temperatures tends not to be a factor in working with, cure times, and when applying and in the removal of cleaners, polishes, and protectants (Low temperatures are a factor, but not low humidity in low temperatures).

      High humidity in high temperatures tends not to be a factor in working with, cure times, and when applying and in the removal of cleaners, polishes, and protectants (High temperatures are a factor, but not high humidity in high temperatures)

      Extreme temperatures, both cold and hot will make any product more difficult to work with.

      Direct sunlight
      Direct sunlight will dramatically increase the surface temperature compared to ambient temperatures and make cleaners, polishes and protectants extremely more difficult to apply, work and remove.

      Air current/Wind
      Air current/air flow, or windy conditions will act to increase the evaporation speed and potentially making some products more difficult to apply, work, or remove. In some cases this can be a bonus, helping a wax to cure/dry more quickly.

      Summary
      The best conditions for using cleaners, polishes and protectants on automotive paints would be in a cool place, out of direct sunlight, in a surface temperature range between 60 degrees and 80 degrees Fahrenheit, with comfortable to low humidity, with a light breeze to create the perfect conditions for detailing your car's finish.

      Common sense and a good rule-of-thumb is to avoid applying any product if the surface is too warm to touch with the palm of your hand comfortably.

      50 degrees Fahrenheit = 10.0 degrees Celsius
      90 degrees Fahrenheit = 32.2 degrees Celsius
      Mike Phillips
      760-515-0444
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      • #4
        Re: What is min temp to wax/seal in?

        Since this is your first post...

        Welcome to Meguiar's Online!

        Moving to Detailing 101

        Detailing 101 forum which is a great catch-all forum and if you don't know which of other forums to post your questions then Detailing 101 is always perfectly acceptable

        Mike Phillips
        760-515-0444
        showcargarage@gmail.com

        "Find something you like and use it often"

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        • #5
          Re: What is min temp to wax/seal in?

          Originally posted by ommegang View Post
          I live

          I have #20 sealant and Carnauba wax. Can I achieve good results in say 40 deg and sunshine?
          M20 Polymer Sealant is a light cleaner/wax and as long as you apply a thin coating it will dry easily and dry quickly and also as a bonus it will wipe off effortlessly.

          The M26 is a non-cleaning pure wax and may take a while to dry in low temps like you stated, might want to just stick with the M20 for now and wait till it warms up to use the M26

          The key is alway surface prep, feel the paint after washing and drying or wiping clean and check to see if it's bumpy or not, if it is then clay the paint before using the M20

          Mike Phillips
          760-515-0444
          showcargarage@gmail.com

          "Find something you like and use it often"

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          • #6
            Re: What is min temp to wax/seal in?

            Thanks for the prompt input! This info is great. I thought my new truck was rusting until I found out about IFO and claying. Got some advise and bought a bunch of Meg products even though I had a bunch of car care products from my dad's dealership days lying around - "rusty Jones" and turtle wax stuff.

            Thanks,

            Lance

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