M105 and D151 hand rubout result

[J. A. Michaels]

Re: M105 and D151 hand rubout result

That is a fantastic picture. What a reflection. Great work.

[ZoranC]

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That is a fantastic picture. What a reflection. Great work.

Thank you!

[Hemin8r]

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Mr. Zoran, great reflection shot!

[Kevin Brown]

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Nice shot Zoran!

Incredible what can be done by hand nowadays...

"Gimme-gimme more, gimme more..."
B. Spears, 2007

[RaskyR1]

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That's a great reflection shot

Wait....that was a reflection? I thought he was talking about the blue Escort....or is that an Accord???

[Mort Corey]

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Curious....did you let the 151 fully dry to "swipe test" conditions before removal? Reason I ask, is I was trying some out on a test section this past weekend and it seemed to take quite a while to set....compared to a product such as #66. It was pretty humid in my area so that could have had some effect or perhaps I was using too much product.

Mort

[TH0001]

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The reflection looks nice but doesn't show the surface of the paint. Do you have any direct sun pictures that can show the level of correction in the paint and how good it really looks?

[zergling]

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At first I was like "how idiotic can a person be to try and show the paint of a car that far away?"

Then I was like "hmm, there's something off with this pic...."

Then I started to laugh at how idiotic I can be

[TH0001]

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Example, here is my car (shot at an extreme angle). Looks amazing right, the reflections are crisp, the paint is dark. (Pictures shot at auto on my Nikon, not retouched.)



Guess the prep or LSP? Nothing. I have not waxed that sides of my car in 7 months. I washed it 3 weeks ago and it is filthy. The sharpness in the reflection comes from focusing on the reflection and not the paint. The reflection itself is from angle. This car is trashed (seriously) yet looks great.

Here is a shot from the other side. Because this is the sun side some of the dirt is visible, but it still looks okay because the dirt is out of focus (the camera is focused on the reflection). Again the reflection looks great and sharp, and the car is heavly soiled, swirled, and damaged.



Here is the condition of the paint from the fender.



This is why reflection shots are really worthless as far as telling the condition of the paint. Many wax companies use these sharp angles to make their wax look good and many detailers uses these to make their work look good.

The car looks great but no different then any of the other cars on the road. A sun shot or before and after would really show results, other wise its just a photo.

[Kevin Brown]

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And that, my friends, ends the parade...

It's a fun shot.

Not a 'look at how good I am at polishing paint' shot.

Geez... Lighten up a little!

[RaskyR1]

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[ZoranC]

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The reflection looks nice but doesn't show the surface of the paint. Do you have any direct sun pictures that can show the level of correction in the paint and how good it really looks?

Example, here is my car (shot at an extreme angle). Looks amazing right, the reflections are crisp, the paint is dark. (Pictures shot at auto on my Nikon, not retouched.)

...

Guess the prep or LSP? Nothing. I have not waxed that sides of my car in 7 months. I washed it 3 weeks ago and it is filthy. The sharpness in the reflection comes from focusing on the reflection and not the paint. The reflection itself is from angle. This car is trashed (seriously) yet looks great.

...

This is why reflection shots are really worthless as far as telling the condition of the paint. Many wax companies use these sharp angles to make their wax look good and many detailers uses these to make their work look good.

The car looks great but no different then any of the other cars on the road. A sun shot or before and after would really show results, other wise its just a photo.

Thank you for the compliment on reflection.

Yes, I am sure you already know that I agree with what you said and that I am very familiar with it because I am sure you can remember my debates with vxrmarc on how photos can be used to deceive.

No, I do not have full sun pictures nor do I have 'befores', sorry. I was not planning on taking any pictures when I started (as I did not start polishing with intention of posting anything), and when I was done it was already getting late plus I was not in the mood for a photo session, I was in a mood for a shower and cold drink, so I took only two shots (one of which did not get posted as it embarassingly shows my fat fingers in the corner of the shot) with thought "cool, I like". I was not aiming to illustrate what you discussed, I was aiming to take picture of what my eyes liked to see. Even if I did my little Panasonic LX2 that I had with me is not a match to your Nikon DSLR in providing detail or manual focusing, nor I have experience in taking such shots that matches yours.

Sorry, maybe next time.

[ZoranC]

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And that, my friends, ends the parade...

It's a fun shot.

Not a 'look at how good I am at polishing paint' shot.

Geez... Lighten up a little!

Nah, nothing is ended, I am enjoying my photo for what it is.

While on the subject of lightening up, when are you going to be in the 'hood again? I need you to lighten up my wallet (for more of M105 ).

[ZoranC]

Re: M105 and D151 hand rubout result

Curious....did you let the 151 fully dry to "swipe test" conditions before removal? Reason I ask, is I was trying some out on a test section this past weekend and it seemed to take quite a while to set....compared to a product such as #66. It was pretty humid in my area so that could have had some effect or perhaps I was using too much product.

I did not, I was (ab)using it as a polish only, I was wiping it off almost immediately after.

[TH0001]

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Thank you for the compliment on reflection.

Yes, I am sure you already know that I agree with what you said and that I am very familiar with it because I am sure you can remember my debates with vxrmarc on how photos can be used to deceive.

No, I do not have full sun pictures nor do I have 'befores', sorry. I was not planning on taking any pictures when I started (as I did not start polishing with intention of posting anything), and when I was done it was already getting late plus I was not in the mood for a photo session, I was in a mood for a shower and cold drink, so I took only two shots (one of which did not get posted as it embarassingly shows my fat fingers in the corner of the shot) with thought "cool, I like". I was not aiming to illustrate what you discussed, I was aiming to take picture of what my eyes liked to see. Even if I did my little Panasonic LX2 that I had with me is not a match to your Nikon DSLR in providing detail or manual focusing, nor I have experience in taking such shots that matches yours.

Sorry, maybe next time.

No problem. Like I said it is a cool shot, but doesn't show much other then it is a cool shot. I would love to see somebefore/afters on the paint, as I'm sure everybody else would as M105 and D151 work very nice by hand, with M105 removing a lot of defects quickly and D151 filling in the rest.


A lot of people seem to have taken your post the wrong way (not your fault) and are expecting results that are flawless and might be disappointed that they don't get them. Like you said the picture is what it is, very cool. It doesn't provide an accurate descprition of the paint nor what the products you used on it did however and it seems some people might be mislead into believing the products made the paint look that way when infact the picture made it look like that (evidenced by my car).

I'm sure we could convince Mike (pick one) to do a write up, polishing the whole car out by hand with these two products... That would be interesting, IMO.