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  • Makeover tips and advice for a beginner wanted!

    Hey guys, I've always wanted to learn how to detail properly though I have always been an avid detailer. I'm very picky when I have a nice car to maintain, or one to fix up for resale.
    The latter brought me here, hopefully I can learn some things to apply to my own vehicles in the future! I am in the process of picking up a rust free 1989 Ford Mustang LX convertible. The car is now in New Jersey, though it's been a Cali car all it's life up until a year ago. The interior looks horrible, under the hood shows it's age, the exterior looks good minus some dings and dents and the convertible top looks good enough. My goal is to clean up the car as much as possible to fetch as much as possible for resale. I will post up some pictures as well.

    1) The exterior is Dove Grey, and looks white in the pictures. I am sure that it has some fading in the clearcoat considering it is a California vehicle. The black trim and beltline mouldings will probably all be scuffed and repainted satin black rather than trying to shine them up. In my experience, this is the best route for an even look all around. I need advice on what to use to make the exterior look its best.

    2) The interior apparently looks worse than it is in the pictures. Either way, I will definitely be replacing either the drivers seat or both front seats. I will be cleaning the carpet, seats and all the plastic as best I can and need help in this regard. What to use, and how?

    3) The convertible top might get a coat of paint/dye depending on its shape. I'm not too worried about cleaning it because it is black but am curious what to use for dressing.

    4) The engine bay is my biggest concern. It looks ugly, and will need some serious attention to make it look nice. The issue here is that Ford decided to paint the upper intake manifold while leaving all the other aluminum surfaces bare! So, I know that certain materials and cleaning products will work great on rubber/plastic/painted areas but will make the bare aluminum spotty or white. Can can I do here? I will be scrubbing, and doing everything I can to make the engine bay look it's best. What products and products can you recommend and are there any tips on how to do this best?

    I appreciate any and all help you can provide, and here are some pics for good measure so that you know what I'm dealing with. I look forward to reading your responses!!!
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    Re: Makeover tips and advice for a beginner wanted!

    Well, lots of ground to cover, lets see...

    1. Here are some links for the paint care, that explain the full process. Understanding them will get you in good shape for that:

    Meguiar's 5-Step Paint Care Cycle
    Step 1 Wash
    Step 2 Clean
    Step 3 Polish
    Step 4 Protect
    Step 5 Maintain

    Suggested Products for Taking Care of a New Car

    What it Means to Remove a Scratch

    How To Remove Swirls By Hand

    How to remove a defect by hand with ScratchX

    Rotary vs. PC vs. Regular Orbital Buffer

    Recommended Products - G100a Dual Action Polisher

    Using the G-100 to remove swirls with the Professional Line

    1986 Ford Bronco II - Extreme Makeover

    Each one, teach one... Ferrari Fiorano 355 F1 Spider

    2. As far as the plastic, you will want something like All-Purpose Cleaner, or All-Purpose Cleaner+ to wipe everything down, and then some kind of dressing for after. Maybe #40 or Hyper Dressing.

    The cloth would be a bit more interesting, I am sure some sort of an extractor would be best, like a Little Green Machine at least, if not a more professional model since it sounds like you do this a lot. You could use some of Meguiar's cleaners with it, like APC, or Quick Out.

    3. In the Marine Line, there are some cleaners and protect ants that people have used on convertible tops.

    4. Engines are not my specialty, hopefully someone can chime in.
    2017 Subaru WRX Premium - WR Blue

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      Re: Makeover tips and advice for a beginner wanted!

      Hi well Murr covered it all pretty good and for that engine bay yes you are going to have to spend some precious time with it but it can be done. Invest a some Super Degreaser, Hyper dressing, HotRims Aluminum polish, NXT all metal polish, and a good quality paint brush like the ones used to paint a home. This will be used for the cleaning since the bristles are not harsh in any way and will not harm the paint and it is small enough to reach in those hard to get areas for cleaning. A more aggressive brush for light scrubbing with super degreaserto get off the bad areas. A cheap leaf blower or air compressor ( not necessary but recommended ) to blow off all the water and dry the engine bay faster, i found this leaf blower for $25 at Walmart and has been doing a great job for the exterior and engine bays. I will post a pic with everything i uses to make an engine bay really pop. The only thing i use that is not in the pic is the TurtleWax ICE liquid polish for the paint surfaces in the engine bay. Mainly because it is easy and can be applied to almost anything i can really get to all the paint surfaces without worrying about hitting and rubber and getting white residue everywhere.
      Ignore everything in the background, just the stuff i put up front.
      ""Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing - the result." - Vince Lombardi
      Jon's Premium Auto Detailing
      210-281-8151

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        Re: Makeover tips and advice for a beginner wanted!

        A little PlastX on those headlights will make them look new. It did wonders for my '88 Mustang

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        • #5
          Re: Makeover tips and advice for a beginner wanted!

          DerrickG32069, that's JUST the info I was looking for! I really appreciate everyones input here!!
          Kerrinjeff, I think I'm just going to invest in some smoked headlights for the car. I've installed them on a couple other rides and they really go well on white. I don't want to take a chance to clean up the stock 19 year old headlights and not have them turn out as nice as I expect. Can't go wrong with new ones! Thanks anyways though, I really appreciate the info!!
          SS

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          • #6
            Re: Makeover tips and advice for a beginner wanted!

            Originally posted by Syco Stang View Post
            DerrickG32069, that's JUST the info I was looking for!
            Your welcome and about the PlastX i would highly recommend you try it out. It easier than you think. If you have a DA use that with a foam pad or even doing it by hand is fast and easy in most cases. You cant go wrong with it and its only about $6 at any Walmart compared to buying new head lights. If you are applying by hand start with either a foam applicator or a microfiber rag and if you need a little more bite use a terry cloth then finalize with the foam pad.
            ""Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing - the result." - Vince Lombardi
            Jon's Premium Auto Detailing
            210-281-8151

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            • #7
              Re: Makeover tips and advice for a beginner wanted!

              Originally posted by Derrickg32069 View Post
              Your welcome and about the PlastX i would highly recommend you try it out. It easier than you think. If you have a DA use that with a foam pad or even doing it by hand is fast and easy in most cases. You cant go wrong with it and its only about $6 at any Walmart compared to buying new head lights. If you are applying by hand start with either a foam applicator or a microfiber rag and if you need a little more bite use a terry cloth then finalize with the foam pad.
              Very good points, especially if you are looking to resell the car. I did 2 applications of PlastX by hand with a terry cloth towel. Total time required was 15 minutes and the results were spactacular!

              Smoked headlights are definitely a love-it-or-hate-it thing, so if you are going to resell the car it might make more financial sense to just clean up the existing headlights.

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              • #8
                Re: Makeover tips and advice for a beginner wanted!

                Thanks guys, and you do make a good point Kerrinjeff. For the money, it's worth a try. I'm going to round up all the supplies I need, can the Meguiars stuff be bought online through this website or somewhere else? I'm going to grab all the stuff Derrick recommended, anything else I will need or should get?
                SS

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                • #9
                  Re: Makeover tips and advice for a beginner wanted!

                  What would you guys recommend to clean up bare aluminum in the engine bay? I'll be getting the car in a week and a half and just wanted to make sure I had all the right product to get it all clean. If you look at all the bare aluminum in the engine bay pic above, you will notice it's all discoloured and there are plenty of spots of oxidization. What would you recommend to clean this up and keep it looking fresh? I'll be picking up everything I need shortly, so I just wanted to make sure I had as complete a list as possible. Thanks again folks!
                  SS

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                    Re: Makeover tips and advice for a beginner wanted!

                    Whoops....
                    Also, I almost forgot to ask. For the trim pieces and beltline mouldings on the car, since I plan to repaint them all satin black would you suggest I paint them before going to town with all the cleaning/polishing/waxing supplies? I'm just afraid that if they are coated in wax, that the paint wont stick. Or that I'll paint them, and the products will leave a white haze or discolouration/different glossiness on the painted parts (since most satin trim pieces are not removable or hard to remove). Input would be much appreciated.
                    SS

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                    • #11
                      Re: Makeover tips and advice for a beginner wanted!

                      Couple of updated pics..... my chrome wheels were drop shipped at the sellers house, and he was kind enough to put them on. What a difference, but those damn headlights really ruin the look!!!! I should get her by Monday, I'm getting excited and a little nervous.






                      Anyone have any ideas on the questions I've asked above??? Just wanted to get a final idea before I get everything, dont want to make multiple purchases.... especially online! Let me know guys, thanks a bunch

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                        Re: Makeover tips and advice for a beginner wanted!

                        Originally posted by Syco Stang View Post
                        Whoops....
                        Also, I almost forgot to ask. For the trim pieces and beltline mouldings on the car, since I plan to repaint them all satin black would you suggest I paint them before going to town with all the cleaning/polishing/waxing supplies? I'm just afraid that if they are coated in wax, that the paint wont stick. Or that I'll paint them, and the products will leave a white haze or discolouration/different glossiness on the painted parts (since most satin trim pieces are not removable or hard to remove). Input would be much appreciated.
                        SS
                        Megs HotRims Mag and Aluminum Polish should work for the bare aluminum and you can paint the trim and just tape them off with a light painters tape before you use the polishes and waxes. If you work the polish and wax first just make sure to properly clean the trim before painting which you will want to do anyways before you paint it. You can clay it and clean with some APC or just use a high grit sand paper light 3000grit before painting. Either would remove all waxes or contaminants that would keep the paint from adhering to the trim
                        ""Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing - the result." - Vince Lombardi
                        Jon's Premium Auto Detailing
                        210-281-8151

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                          Re: Makeover tips and advice for a beginner wanted!

                          Love the chrome ponies Trust me on the PlastX and headlights - you've got nothing to lose

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                            Re: Makeover tips and advice for a beginner wanted!

                            Originally posted by Derrick View Post
                            Megs HotRims Mag and Aluminum Polish should work for the bare aluminum and you can paint the trim and just tape them off with a light painters tape before you use the polishes and waxes. If you work the polish and wax first just make sure to properly clean the trim before painting which you will want to do anyways before you paint it. You can clay it and clean with some APC or just use a high grit sand paper light 3000grit before painting. Either would remove all waxes or contaminants that would keep the paint from adhering to the trim
                            I went by the local parts store (Canadian Tire), and everything was about 150% the price that's advertised on Meguiar's site. They said if I printed the prices all out that they'd match the prices, I just cant justify spending $27.99 for wax when it's priced here for $17.99.

                            I came up with this list of things to buy, the things I need most are marked with an asterisk:
                            1) WASHING
                            MEGUIARS NXT CAR WASH $4.99*
                            MEGUIARS MICROFIBER WASH MITT $4.99*
                            MEGUIARS PREMIUM NATURAL CHAMOIS $14.99*
                            ENGINE BAY:
                            MEGUIARS SUPER DEGREASER $14.40
                            CONVERTIBLE TOP:
                            RAGGTOP CLEANER $15.99*
                            INTERIOR:
                            MEGUIARS QUIK OUT CARPET STAIN REMOVER $4.99*

                            2) CLEANING / SURFACE PREP
                            CLAY BAR HAVE IT
                            INTERIOR:

                            HEADLIGHTS:
                            PLASTX CLEAR PLASTIC CLEAN AND POLISH $5.49*

                            3) POLISHING
                            NU FINISH POLISH HAVE IT
                            WHEELS/ENGINE BAY:
                            MEGUIARS HOTRIMS ALUMINUM POLISH $6.99*

                            4) PROTECTING
                            MEGUIARS NXT GENERATION TECHWAX 2.0 $17.39*
                            ENGINE BAY:
                            MEGUIARS HYPER DRESSING $39.39
                            CONVERTIBLE TOP:
                            RAGGTOP VYNIL DRESSING/PROTECTANT $20.99
                            INTERIOR:
                            MEGUIARS GOLD CLASS VYNIL/RUBBER PROTECTANT $5.49*

                            5) MAINTAINING
                            MEGUIARS INSTANT DETAILER $9.42

                            Originally posted by kerrinjeff View Post
                            Love the chrome ponies Trust me on the PlastX and headlights - you've got nothing to lose
                            Thanks! I knew the Chrome Ponies would make a huge difference, now it needs to be lowered and fully detailed I hope the headlights really come out nice.
                            SS

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                            • #15
                              Re: Makeover tips and advice for a beginner wanted!

                              you should print out the prices at autodetailingsolustions.com and see if they will match those. If i remember right they are a little cheaper than ordering straight from megs. Also i noticed that you have Nu Finish Polish, is that the once a year car polish that they sell? If so how is that? i am always sceptical to buy products that make outrageous claims like that i am just curious to how it performs as a polish. They also said it offers protection so what is it? Does it work more like a polish or wax? Ok well just curious to hear about what you think
                              ""Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing - the result." - Vince Lombardi
                              Jon's Premium Auto Detailing
                              210-281-8151

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