Meguiars brunei bad reputation

[prelude86]

Unfortunately i just know when buying my new car the dealer wanted to wash the car at a reputable shop before handing it to me he sent me to zymol shop and i ask why not meguiars,

1. the zymol car saloon use filtered water
2. The workers are more professional than meguiars because they are honest and dont give false promises that they can fix sumthin eventhough they cant

My salesman said meguiars are good products too bad the workers are not good enough so to those who wnats to start a business take care of your reputation

[Tim Lingor]

Re: Meguiars brunei bad reputation

Unfortunately i just know when buying my new car the dealer wanted to wash the car at a reputable shop before handing it to me he sent me to zymol shop and i ask why not meguiars,

1. the zymol car saloon use filtered water
2. The workers are more professional than meguiars because they are honest and dont give false promises that they can fix sumthin eventhough they cant

My salesman said meguiars are good products too bad the workers are not good enough so to those who wnats to start a business take care of your reputation

Morning,

Have you visited the Meguiar's Detailing shop in your area or are you only going by the comments of a salesman at a car dealership? If you have not visited the shop, your comments are nothing more than hearsay based on the comments from a car salesman/dealer. Is it possible that the dealer has a business arrangement with the Zymol detailing shop???

Have you had work done by this shop that was unsatisfactory? If so, what did they do wrong?

It would be prudent that before making a statement like you have that you actually visit the shop yourself and see for yourself rather than taking the word of someone who may have their own agenda or business arrangement with the other shop... .


Tim

[Mike Phillips]

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Doesn't sound like Meguair's historical way of doing things, which is the right way the first time. Tim's probably right in that there's either a backroom deal going on which is the norm, or could be the guy has an axe to grind, regardless, anyone that knows anything at all knows our products perform as stated and our company tends to attract people that are passionate about cars, two things that lead to success.

Maybe you can e-mail myself the details and we'll forward that to upper management.

Send to: mphillips@meguiars.com

Thanks,

[HagFan]

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I find it hard to believe that the brand of products can be so directly correlated with worker performance. The Meguiar's guy at my garage-- me-- always does top notch work.

[Michael Stoops]

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Sounds like the dealership either has an agreement with the Zymol shop or this one particular individual had a bad experience one time at the Meguiar's shop. Hey, it could happen, and people are quick to judge based on a single bad experience. And don't forget, "bad" is purely subjective.

[prelude86]

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actually i send my car with minor oxidation and they cant fix it but in this forum i saw worst oxidation repair,

One of them lied to me into buying a paint cleaner that it could remove watterspots and scratches so i bought the meg body scrub

I just hope not all of them are bad coz i noe some had detailing courses.

I wish the workers there could duplicte what you guys did in this forum

Since they are the authorised dealer they didnt mention of any moneyback gurantee?

I got a bad batch of color X. It had water and no matter how hard i shook it it won't mix same thing happed with my nxt. 1st meg product the body scrub is in better shape than my nxt and color x. I bought it a long time ago so i dout i could replace it beacuse i didnt know it was a bad batch until i read about it in this forum

[prelude86]

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I used to tell my friends how good the meguiars and even show them some pics from the extreme makeover but when he sent his car them himself the meg told him that they can fix the oxidation but it will come back even if taken care of properly thats like saying they could only hide the paint temporarily

The oxidation don look so bad because the cars from the extreme make over looked worse

[prelude86]

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Please delete this thread if possible i feel guilty reading the thread title maybe it shoul be why meguiars have bad rep

[jfelbab]

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actually i send my car with minor oxidation and they cant fix it but in this forum i saw worst oxidation repair,

One of them lied to me into buying a paint cleaner that it could remove watterspots and scratches so i bought the meg body scrub

I just hope not all of them are bad coz i noe some had detailing courses.

I wish the workers there could duplicte what you guys did in this forum

Since they are the authorised dealer they didnt mention of any moneyback gurantee?

I got a bad batch of color X. It had water and no matter how hard i shook it it won't mix same thing happed with my nxt. 1st meg product the body scrub is in better shape than my nxt and color x. I bought it a long time ago so i dout i could replace it beacuse i didnt know it was a bad batch until i read about it in this forum

I'd like to see that oxidation and how old is the car? Are you talking about a 22 year old 1986 Honda Prelude?

If so, it is very likely that the detailer is correct. Once paint starts to age and oxidize it is a very slippery slope to keep it looking good. Oxidation is not dirt on the paint it is the paint drying out and disintegrating. Once it starts there is little outside of repainting that will keep it from oxidizing again in a short time. Yes, it will come right back. You can use Body Scrub to remove the oxidation but you will find that this will need to be done more and more frequently as the paint is dying. I have owned cars where the paint had begun to deteriorate and the only way you can manage this is to keep polishing with products like Body Scrub and sealing frequently with sealant or wax. A car cover would also help to slow the process but understand that the paint is drying out and eventually you will need to repaint if you intend to keep the car and want to resolve this issue.

Read the back label on the Meg's products. Here in the states there is an 800 number to call if the product is not providing satisfactory use. Meg's has a well trained staff of customer service representitives who will do their best to see that you are;
using the right products for the job, using the products properly, or will replace defective products.

[yalerd]

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anyone that knows anything at all knows our products perform as stated and our company tends to attract people that are passionate about cars, two things that lead to success.

Nailed it!
I've notice this and great point Mike, people that use Meguiar's are very passionate about cars, I see people use other brands and it's really because someone told them or by impulse but they are not "married" to the brand, they can use one brand this month and next month they could use another one due to a sale special for example.

Just a note, never judge that quick because you never know the interest on the other side

[prelude86]

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actually it was my friend's 97 toyota and i cant take picture of it now because its already preped for paint and in my country we can't call the 800 #

All i can say is it looked like the white spot on this rx7 in extreme makeover 'miracle buff'
its still smooth only turned white which in my past exprience with my friend's corolla can be remove w/ rubbing compound to restore the colour but i dun have the tools and exprience to remove the scratch and back then i have no idea about meguiars.

[Tim Lingor]

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Hey,

If your friend's car looked like that hood, it could be the beginning of clear coat failure. Polishing it will restore the gloss temporarily but it will quickly fade back to that state. No product or skill level of the detailer can change that. Once CC failure starts, there is nothing that can be done. All you can do is keep applying a wax to help keep up the appearance the best you can.

Sometimes people have unobtainable expectations from detailers. If the paint is failing, or has been damaged by some type of severe industrial fallout etc, a detailer can bring it back to the best that paint can be, but it will/may not last. I think people sometimes see some of these miracle make-overs and expect that their car should also look like that. Alas, that is not the case as each car's paint is different. Often times, a detailer will look at a paint and suggest that it will not be a problem to detail, until they actually tackle into it and then see the REAL condition of the paint, they have no REAL idea how bad it truly is.

Here is an analogy: You have been in a rear end accident. The bumper on your car has a small dent and you figure that the damage is very minor. You take it to the body shop, they say the same thing but suggest that they will have to check to see what was damaged that can not be seen. Suddenly, you have a LOT more damage than you expected. That just happened to a friend of mine with his new F150. He was rear ended and the damage did not appear too bad...but it was and the bill was over $4000 for the repairs.

Does that make sense? I am trying to convey that people sometimes expect that detailers can make their car's paint new again. So while detailers can make it look fantastic, if the paint is failing, it is failing. All the product or skills in the world can only do so much...

Tim

[yalerd]

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in my country we can't call the 800 #

where are you from?

[Justin Murphy]

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I've never had a Meguiar's product not live it up to it's label.......in fact it normally exceeds it.

10k wax doesn't make a detail.......the DETAILER does.

[Hemin8r]

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Meguiars has come through for me on even extreme cases within reason ofcourse. I agree that you can only do so much especially when the clear coat is failing.
Some of my customers are wowed and the first thing they ask is oh do you use zymol or something? When I tell them it's Meguiars they seem to be surprised. Probably because they see many Meguiars products over the counter they think it's not a professional line.