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    Cobweb Swirls vs Rotary Buffer Swirls
    Below is an explanation between the difference between random swirls and scratches that show up in what is commonly referred to as Cobweb Swirls as compared to Rotary Buffer Swirls.


    Cobweb Scratches or Cobweb Swirls
    Actually, the term cobweb swirls or spiderweb swirls comes from the fact that when you look at the paint in such a way as to place the reflection of the sun or another source of bright light so that it's on a painted panel, you'll see what looks like swirls and scratches forming in a circular pattern around the point of light.

    Cobweb Scratches or Cobweb Swirls




    Cobweb Scratches or Cobweb Swirls



    Now if you move around a little bit so as to move the point of light around on the panel you'll see what looks as though the cobweb swirls are following the point of light. The cobweb swirls are not actually following the point of light what's really happening is that the entire finish is so filled with random scratches that wherever you place the point of light you'll see the circular or cobweb pattern show up because the random scratches will reflect the light back towards the center of this point of light. So as you move the point of light around on a painted panel it looks as though the cobweb swirls are following the point of light.

    Does that make sense?

    The scratches are not specifically circle scratches, they could be a all straight-line scratches but the effect is they look circular because the point of light is circular and the light hitting the hundreds of thousands of scratches are all reflecting back to the center of the point of light making it look as though the scratches are all circular when that's not the case.



    Buffer swirls or Buffer Trails or Holograms
    Swirls instilled through the use and mis-use of a rotary buffer will tend to show up in a pattern that reflect the direction the rotary buffer was moved over the surface.

    Rotary Buffer Instilled Swirls




    Rotary Buffer Instilled Swirls


    Hope this helps to explain the difference.

    Mike Phillips
    760-515-0444
    showcargarage@gmail.com

    "Find something you like and use it often"

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    Re: Cobweb Swirls vs Rotary Buffer Swirls

    Wow! Look at that Lexus ... got me scared! Pictures are worth a thousand words. I'm guessing that an orbital machine would have been less hazardous ... oh me

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    • #3
      Re: Cobweb Swirls vs Rotary Buffer Swirls

      what do you recommend using to fix these?

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      • #4
        Re: Cobweb Swirls vs Rotary Buffer Swirls

        The way you remove swirls of any type is to remove the paint surrounding them, to do this we use compound, paint cleaners, cleaner/polishes and cleaner/waxes.

        Click the "how-to" forum link below and there are some threads in their on removing swirls and scratches, (below surface defects), by hand and by using a dual action polisher, give them a read through.

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        Mike Phillips
        760-515-0444
        showcargarage@gmail.com

        "Find something you like and use it often"

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        • #5
          Re: Cobweb Swirls vs Rotary Buffer Swirls

          I'd like to add (hopefully this is okay) that it is possible to run across swirls that have the nature of both. This mustang I did awhile back had what appeared to be horrible swirling under halogens, but in direct sun you could clearly see that they were induced by a rotary buffer...possibly a dry buff from the look.



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          • #6
            Re: Cobweb Swirls vs Rotary Buffer Swirls

            very nice piece of information. Thanks guys !!

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            • #7
              Re: Cobweb Swirls vs Rotary Buffer Swirls

              Wow that is bad. I would love to get my hands on those cars.
              Jesse

              2009-2014 Meguiar's/Car Crazy SEMA Team
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              • #8
                Re: Cobweb Swirls vs Rotary Buffer Swirls

                Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
                --Al Kimel

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                • #9
                  Re: Cobweb Swirls vs Rotary Buffer Swirls

                  please dont bump ... my eyes are hurting from the defects... it makes my hands want to detail those swirls...
                  Ganesa,
                  Toyota Vios '05

                  Theres a difference in a person who has to do it and a person who wants to do it

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                  • #10
                    Re: Cobweb Swirls vs Rotary Buffer Swirls

                    Hi guys from what i understand if you take your newly black car in for ****** then the problems start either with swirls or any other defect on the paind

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