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    Single Stage vs. Clear Coat

    Single Stage vs. Clear Coat

    I m not sure if this is the right place, but I was wondering which paint you guys rather have on a car, and if you dont mind stating why you like that type of paint.
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    Re: Single Stage vs. Clear

    SS, because it is cooler and looks a little better if you take care of it. The only problem it kills your pads and towels.

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    Re: Single Stage vs. Clear

    how about durability? which tends to last longer? my guess would be clear...
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    Re: Single Stage vs. Clear

    basecoat/clearcoat will last a lot longer than a single stage paint. one plus of a single stage is that it will buff out and look brand new, however it doesnt last nearly as long as bc/cc. it also depends on who you ask. I'm in school for automotive body repair and my older professor likes SS because thats what he has used his whole life, but my younger professor lives and dies by bc/cc

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    Re: Single Stage vs. Clear

    Single Stage. Looks good and is lighter

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    Re: Single Stage vs. Clear

    Depends upon what you want...

    If you're a painter in a body shop you want to apply a paint job that's going to look good and last a long time because you want your customer to be happy and most people want a paint job that looks good and lasts a long time.

    If you're a paint polishing fool, and you know a little bit about paint, you might want a single stage for the look and the polishability.

    The guy who owns this truck wanted the blackest black "Look" he could get and for this reason his painter recommended a single stage paint, it was still a catalyzed urethane and not a traditional lacquer or enamel, so it was new technology, just not with a clear coating of clear resin over the top of it.






    Clear coat finishes are generally very durable in that even with just basic car care they will last a long time, don't confuse this to mean they'll look good for a long time because you can have a clear coated car completely filled with swirls and it will still last a long time, but it isn't going to look good over this this period of time.

    Does that make sense?


    Clear coats are scratch-sensitive, most the chatter on other forums for years was always about how soft clear coats paints are and this is why they scratch so easily, but the reality is most clear coat paints are very hard and yet they still scratch very easily.

    The practical real-world effect of this characteristic of clear coat paints is that for those of us who like to work on our cars, that is wash, clean, polish and protect the paint, it's harder for us to remove below surface defects because the paint is generally harder than traditional paints and therefore more difficult to remove small particles of paint in an effort to remove the defects and all the while doing so in a manner that we don't put more defects into the paint at the same time.

    This is where polishing paint becomes an art form and this is where it becomes very important to choose the right products and use the proper techniques whenever you're working you your car or a customer's car.
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    Re: Single Stage vs. Clear

    That black Ford F-100,is my dream car no.1
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    Re: Single Stage vs. Clear

    Actually I prefer tinted clear.

    Gives you the durability of CC, but a closer look to SS

    Some automakers use it, and i imagine more will

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    Re: Single Stage vs. Clear

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Phillips View Post
    Depends upon what you want....
    Yep, I can't even cast a vote on this because it depends entirely upon the car. I'm moving heaven and earth to get the proper ss lacquer (metallic gray, ~silver) mixed up for some spotting in on my Jag, but I want b/c on the Audis.

    It's not the durability/etc. for me, but rather the sometimes subtle difference in appearance (like they were thinking with that F-100). When I see older cars repainted with "too modern" paints they just look wrong to me, but hey, that's just me...
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    Re: Single Stage vs. Clear

    Can you get Lacquer???? We can't here in Cali!!!!!

    I need to do some spot work on my lacquer red 57.

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