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**Michael Stoops** · Aug 30, 2006, 08:15 AM

What I always find interesting about threads like the one linked to is that everybody wants to talk about easy on/easy off and water beading. You don't see many discussions about using a machine and a good polish to remove swirls and other defects. Paint care, real paint care, is about so much more than slapping a coat of wax on your car every six months.

Zaino is a very good product with fantastic marketing behind it, but when you need more weapons in your detailing arsenal it's really hard to beat the choices Meguiar's offers, both for paint care and interior and trim detailing as well. Add to that the fact that Meguiar's stuff just plain works, gives an incredible shine, and is far less expensive, then to me the choice becomes pretty much a no-brainer.

**Murr1525** · Aug 30, 2006, 08:26 AM

I think most polish / wax products would look good if everthing was perfect... but very few companies actualy offer good products to get the surface back to perfect, or reasonably close to it.

**PaBlkBrd** · Aug 30, 2006, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by Mike-in-Orange
What I always find interesting about threads like the one linked to is that everybody wants to talk about easy on/easy off and water beading. You don't see many discussions about using a machine and a good polish to remove swirls and other defects. Paint care, real paint care, is about so much more than slapping a coat of wax on your car every six months.

Zaino is a very good product with fantastic marketing behind it, but when you need more weapons in your detailing arsenal it's really hard to beat the choices Meguiar's offers, both for paint care and interior and trim detailing as well. Add to that the fact that Meguiar's stuff just plain works, gives an incredible shine, and is far less expensive, then to me the choice becomes pretty much a no-brainer.

I agree 100%......With out the prep work, all you are doing is waxing a turd!

**Newport Viper** · Aug 30, 2006, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by PaBlkBrd
I agree 100%......With out the prep work, all you are doing is waxing a turd!

Well it is 99.9% optically clear.

**SOLDSHORT** · Oct 11, 2006, 10:50 AM

Re: Meguiar's vs Zaino

Megs is holding up just fine!

**rascal** · Oct 11, 2006, 11:36 AM

Re: Meguiar's vs Zaino

Meguair's for me all the way.

Never used Zaino so I can't comment on how well it works, but I have used TW way back when. I won't make that mistake again.

**Deaner5** · Oct 11, 2006, 04:51 PM

Re: Meguiar's vs Zaino

I also haven't used Z or Dawn Dishsoap on my car either. I just can't believe in the Dishsoap step that they are told.

**STG** · Oct 11, 2006, 06:53 PM

Re: Meguiar's vs Zaino

Originally posted by Deaner5 View Post

I also haven't used Z or Dawn Dishsoap on my car either. I just can't believe in the Dishsoap step that they are told.

Obviously, you havent heard of step 5.5 in the Zaino process:

Unroll prayer rug included with Z7, kneel down and face New Jersey.

**JSM** · Oct 11, 2006, 07:29 PM

Re: Meguiar's vs Zaino

It's pretty simple and straightforward...

If you want the best, use Meguiar's. Why support a company that resorts to unsavory marketing practices and fails to let their products "do the talking" (seems like the zealots have this covered already)? Heck, twelve coats of Zaino in the previous picture looked absolutely horrible compared to one coat of NXT. I'm not trying to knock Zaino, but just don't give me the usual "optical clarity" garbage when there is no quantitative method for measuring such an attribute. When you get right down to it, optical clarity is nothing more than some false idea deeply rooted into the heads of people that use Zaino in the first place.

I'll leave my money and support 100% to Meguiar's, hands down. Let's see Sal try to come up with an online web forum, a television show created for dedicated car enthusiasts, and on top of that make frequent appearances for all of his loyal fans. It's a safe bet that such a thing isn't happening anytime soon. Meguiar's attention to their customers and actually providing customer service is what separates them from the rest.

Sorry, Meguiar's wins easily in this argument. The depth (no pun intended) of their product lines far exceeds most, if not all, other companies in the industry.

**SiriusRIMZ** · Oct 11, 2006, 07:53 PM

Re: Meguiar's vs Zaino

I think Mike preaches "Find something you like and use it often." Couldn't be more true. I dont judge a product by its brand, or its package. The reason I use so many Meguairs products is simple. I researched, tested, and the products performed. I cant agree with everyone saying that NXT is the best product. I believe a pass of 80, 82, then 21, topped with 16 (or 26) is by far the best combo.

**Suh** · Oct 11, 2006, 07:55 PM

Re: Meguiar's vs Zaino

Originally posted by JSM View Post

It's pretty simple and straightforward...

If you want the best, use Meguiar's. Why support a company that resorts to unsavory marketing practices and fails to let their products "do the talking" (seems like the zealots have this covered already)? Heck, twelve coats of Zaino in the previous picture looked absolutely horrible compared to one coat of NXT. I'm not trying to knock Zaino, but just don't give me the usual "optical clarity" garbage when there is no quantitative method for measuring such an attribute. When you get right down to it, optical clarity is nothing more than some false idea deeply rooted into the heads of people that use Zaino in the first place.

I'll leave my money and support 100% to Meguiar's, hands down. Let's see Sal try to come up with an online web forum, a television show created for dedicated car enthusiasts, and on top of that make frequent appearances for all of his loyal fans. It's a safe bet that such a thing isn't happening anytime soon. Meguiar's attention to their customers and actually providing customer service is what separates them from the rest.

Sorry, Meguiar's wins easily in this argument. The depth (no pun intended) of their product lines far exceeds most, if not all, other companies in the industry.

By "best" you must mean in your opinion. I have not used Zaino and don't know whether I ever will but others have and will continue to regardless of what other people say. I'm sure tons of people who use Zaino can justify why they continue to use it and why they believe it is best. Just as people who use Meguiar's can and do. If you use Meguiar's and believe it is the best, then just continue on using Meguiar's. If it is indeed the best in your mind, the satisfaction of knowing that other people are using an inferior product should be good enough. I thought that one of the forum rules was not to bash any other company or their products. I just never see the point of these Company X vs Company Y arguments. Use what you believe to be the best and what works for you and just leave it at that.

**acsuppa** · Oct 11, 2006, 08:02 PM

Re: Meguiar's vs Zaino

Meguiar's all the way for me. I can't say anything bad about Zaino since I never tried it. I'm sure it's a decent product. I am 110% happy with Meguiar's so I'll never try anything else. IMO Meguiar's is the best.

**Suh** · Oct 11, 2006, 08:23 PM

Re: Meguiar's vs Zaino

The thing that attracted me to Meguiar's was the range of their products, the availability, and the pricing. I like that a lot of their products can be found OTC and through dealers. I like that it is relatively cheaper than other brands and that it performs well.

**STG** · Oct 11, 2006, 09:17 PM

Re: Meguiar's vs Zaino

I'm just guessing here.... You didn't get a prayer rug, did you?

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