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Rockpick
May 4th, 2005, 01:53 PM
About a year ago, Meguiar's unveiled the new 'Detailer Line' (D-Line) of products replacing a very nice line that was already in place. Unfortunately, a few 'tried and true' products died when the D-Line revamp took place but, as we may have lost a couple of products, we gained some great ones too!

None the less, out with the old, in with the new (I just wish they wouldn't have killed Final Detail -- another gripe, another day). With that in mind, I've slowly gathered several of the new D-line products and have been trying them out over the past few months.

Most recently, I've been using Meguiar's Hyper Dressing (D-170). This is a dressing that is pretty unique to the industry in that it is DILUTABLE to your desired look (high gloss to natural shine (and everywhere in between)). This is a VERY versatile product!

http://meguiars.com/estore/images/product_d170.gif

My opinion is that Meg's has hit the nail on the head with Hyper Dressing. While other manufacturers have tried similar dilutable products (Pro-Products makes one even today), none, in my opinion, are capable of doing what this product does with a couple of sprays.

Application is cake. Simply spray on and walk away. Come back to your tire a little later and even it up with a foam applicator or, my favorite, an Eagle One Tire Swipe. Allow to dry for a while and roll! (don't forget to clean off any over spray from your wheel!). I highly recommend utilizing a good cleaner to clean your tires as part of your detailing procedure. I utilized the late/great Meguiar's Citri-Gel at 1:1 for tire cleaning on this detail.

Sling is VERY minimal, although, I did note a couple of blotches on the paint after usage (probably white wall lettering holding a bit of product). The 'sling' on the tire itself (you know, the smear that runs away from the whitewall lettering and other texture) was nominal and almost non-existent.

Price. A bit on the high side for a gallon but, look at it this way, even at a 2:1 Medium Gloss ratio, you're getting enough to last the average Joe YEARS... not months for the asking price of around $35. If you're a natural shine type of person, 4-gallons for that price! Or, you can do like I've done, and mix up a couple of different ratios for different applications!

Comparison. If you like Meguiar's Hi-Gloss Endurance or Hot Shine, you're going to LOVE this product. This product smells just like Endurance -- grapey. I found the product to be very slightly sticky at 1:1 but not at 4:1. I might have mixed it a little bit strong though... not sure. It's certainly not bad though.

Usage. Use it anywhere that you'd use a dressing. While I typically reserve my wheel wells for the 'tire shine' products (like EO WET) that I don't particularly care for, I've been hitting my wells with a few shots of this and they seem to stay black longer... even after rains. Further, I've noted that the lasting shine is comparable to Endurance; even through rain.

Now, a few pics...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/521261-1874-121532.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/521261-1874-121535.jpg

(MPPC & #16 on the paint if you're curious)

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/521261-1874-121607.jpg

Engine Compartment -- Sorry for the Flash Photo... It's not that great. The engine compartment, however, looks STELLAR.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/521261-1874-121608.jpg

Picture taken after about 200 miles of interstate driving... everything still looks VERY good.


RP :D

Boss_429
May 4th, 2005, 02:55 PM
The entire vehicle looks outstanding RP! :xyxthumbs :xyxthumbs

I take it you think that the HD is worth the price.......... right?

everglo
May 4th, 2005, 03:33 PM
Hey RP,

Looks great as always. Did you just spray & walk on the engine? Or did you have to come back and wipe down? Was that 4:1 you used on the engine? What was the ratio you used on the tires and wheel wells?

Rockpick
May 4th, 2005, 03:46 PM
Boss - ABSOLUTELY!

I was actually trying to be overly critical on the product and I really couldn't come up with any serious deficiencies or flaws. It really is a GREAT product.


Originally posted by everglo
Hey RP,

Looks great as always. Did you just spray & walk on the engine? Or did you have to come back and wipe down? Was that 4:1 you used on the engine? What was the ratio you used on the tires and wheel wells?

Sprayed on and walked away after removing the overspray from my air intake tube (polished). That's the ONLY thing I wiped down.

Both areas were 1:1. Probably overkill for the engine compartment but, at the time, I hadn't mixed my 4:1. The 'wife-mobile' (04 Explorer Eddie Bauer) has 4:1 under the hood... I'll try to get some pics of that sometime soon.

RP :D

gb387
May 4th, 2005, 07:05 PM
All looks great! Seems like everything looks good with a little HD on it!

2000
May 5th, 2005, 05:52 AM
new detailer line, new truck, life is good!:D
loved your work. looks like I have to get some as well, just waiting for my engine cote to run out.:(

Tim Lingor
May 5th, 2005, 05:58 AM
Hey RP!

Very nice review! :xyxthumbs

I totally agree, Meguiar's HD is an excellent product! I also really like using it in the wheel wells that have plastic liners!! :)


Tim

Rockpick
May 7th, 2005, 06:42 PM
Thanks guys! I washed again today as the dust build up was beyond any type of Spray and Wipe or Quick Detailer...

I went ahead and Citri-Gel'd the tires to remove everything and have gone back to HD on the tires... so far, so perfect!

I love this stuff...

RP :D

char_kwan
May 8th, 2005, 12:43 AM
"Both areas were 1:1. Probably overkill for the engine compartment but, at the time, I hadn't mixed my 4:1. The 'wife-mobile' (04 Explorer Eddie Bauer) has 4:1 under the hood... I'll try to get some pics of that sometime soon."

4:1=water(4):HD(1) ?

Acenas
May 16th, 2005, 04:41 PM
Price. A bit on the high side for a gallon but, look at it this way, even at a 2:1 Medium Gloss ratio, you're getting enough to last the average Joe YEARS... not months for the asking price of around $35. If you're a natural shine type of person, 4-gallons for that price! Or, you can do like I've done, and mix up a couple of different ratios for different applications!

How many cars do you think can be dressed out of one gallon? Looking to get some for my car wash.

scrub
May 16th, 2005, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by Acenas
How many cars do you think can be dressed out of one gallon? Looking to get some for my car wash.

Rather than cars I'd worry about how many spray bottles you can get out of a gallon. Man this stuff will stretch. With the dilution it only takes a small amount mixed with water. I have half a bottle left and its a year old. I average anywhere from 4 cars a month to 10 cars a month (during the busy times). Those numbers are for a small weekend business too not a full time shop. Hyper dressing is truly a versatile and great product.

Good luck and hope this was helpful...

everglo
May 16th, 2005, 05:34 PM
What spray nozzle are you all using? I just received my sample bottle from Auto Detailing Solutions and it comes out too thick to spray. I had to apply it with a pad. I have not tried diluting it as yet but it appears that even if I did dilute it it would still be too thick to spray. Perhaps the nozzle(which is not a Meguiar's nozzle) is the problem.

The results are very good but it would be nice if I could just spray and walk away. Or at least not have to apply with an applicator as it takes a bit more time.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Fr0zen
Jun 4th, 2005, 08:30 PM
How should I dilute the product to get a really wet looking shine, without using to much product. I will only be using this product on wheel wells, engines, interior (rarly)..

05PhillyStang
Jun 17th, 2005, 08:27 AM
What type of cleaner do you recommend prior to HD? APC?

Fr0zen
Jun 17th, 2005, 09:47 AM
Any good APC, APC+, APC, Safe-D Degreaser etc..

Rockpick
Jul 5th, 2005, 04:54 PM
Yikes... it looks like I have a bit of catching up to do on this thread...


Originally posted by everglo
What spray nozzle are you all using?

I'm using the Meguiar's Secondary Bottle which comes with a very nice sprayer in my opinion. For me, cranked down to just barely open, it creates a very fine mist that covers perfectly and doesn't really leave excess product behind.

Having black paint though, I still prefer to follow with a 'tire swipe' type of product to even everything out and remove excess that might have 'pooled' within the white lettering on the tires. Sling bites on a dark colored vehicle... may as well prevent it.


Originally posted by Fr0zen
How should I dilute the product to get a really wet looking shine, without using to much product. I will only be using this product on wheel wells, engines, interior (rarly)..

Go with a 2:1 or 3:1 ratio. Mix a couple of very small batches at first and experiment with the product. Maybe a 1:1 is what you're looking for... maybe a 4:1 will yield what you expect. It's an EXTREMELY versitile product. I keep two bottles mixed at all times; one matte/natural shine, one at 1:1 for ultra-shine!



Originally posted by 05PhillyStang
What type of cleaner do you recommend prior to HD? APC?

Old habits are hard to break (and so are stockpiles of discontinued chemicals)... I've been using the late/great Citri-Gel product for cleaning wheels and wells for well over a couple of years now and continue to use it. On occasion, for extremely grimey areas, I might go to a dilute mix of Simple Green and/or Safe D-Greaser (D-105) with a foaming sprayer. The idea, in my opinion, is to keep the degreaser/cleaner off of the wheels as it can, pending enough dwell time is allowed, remove wax.

With that in mind, I'll wet the adjacent panels down so that overspray of the chemical doesn't have as much of a liklihood of affecting the paint. I'll then spray the chemical and allow to dwell for about a minute. I'll follow with the Versa-Angle Tire Brush (which is an AWESOME brush) and rinse immediately there after. Rinse and, presto...

I also highly recommend the Safe D for wheel wells... it's a workhorse type of product!

RP :D

everglo
Jul 5th, 2005, 06:12 PM
Yeah, I've found that 3:1 works pretty well.

Tim Lingor
Jul 5th, 2005, 06:51 PM
Hey,

Just to add to Brad's post...(nice to hear from you again Brad! :) )


The spray heads are not included with the secondary bottles. As such, I assume that Brad has the:

Standard Spray Head: D-110516.

Other spray heads available:

Foaming Spray Head: D-110813
Chemical Spray Head: D-110542
High Volume Spray Head: D-110803

Cheers! :)

Tim

Rockpick
Jul 6th, 2005, 03:49 AM
Whoops... good point Tim.

I'm using high-vol for the HD and the foaming for Safe-D... :xyxthumbs

KLnyc
Jul 6th, 2005, 09:41 AM
I got mine few weeks ago and dang it work pretty good. My diluted ratio is 3:1.
Any one compared with PB BnB?

00GREENMACHINE
Aug 20th, 2005, 04:10 PM
does anyone know if the 32 oz sample bottle come already diluted? Where can you get this from besides auto detailing solutions. Had them stick me with a bad foaming nozzle he wanted me to call Meguiars to get them to replace it.

also if you buy the gallon do you get the 32 oz sprayer?

BlkBear
Aug 20th, 2005, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by 00GREENMACHINE
does anyone know if the 32 oz sample bottle come already diluted? Where can you get this from besides auto detailing solutions. Had them stick me with a bad foaming nozzle he wanted me to call Meguiars to get them to replace it.

also if you buy the gallon do you get the 32 oz sprayer?

Did you call Meguiars btw?

I don't know how the Meg's distributorships work as far as replacement of defective parts, but that sounds about right (having you call the head quarters for replacement parts), I mean if all they (the distributor) carry is products that come with what they come with, and don't carry replacement sprayers for product that comes with a sprayer. Of course I could be wrong.

But I'm sure Mike Phillips would know how that type of thing works as far a what distributors can and can't do.

00GREENMACHINE
Aug 20th, 2005, 07:33 PM
I bought it from the distributor. He wanted me to pay for return shipping and I guess shipping again to replace the broken part. Thats BS and poor customer service IMO. All he had to do is send me a replacement nozzle. He really did not want to do anything and just advised me to call Meguairs they would send me one free. Thats cheap IMO.

Buellwinkle
Aug 20th, 2005, 08:03 PM
Those Meguiars nozzles they include with a quart are pretty bad, Had to play with mine for a long while before it started spraying. I hope you know that the tube has to be inserted into the spray head for it to work. I would say just use the bottle as a bottle and get a small good spray bottle to distribute product as even when it does work it sprays unevenly and you need to transfer the product to another bottle anyway to dilute it (he does not dilute it). When you buy a gallon you don't get any spray bottle. The 32oz bottle is something they do uniquely and I find their efforts to cater to us hobbiest a great service and they can't be making much money at it. I would not stop using them just because the sprayer is bad, that's a Meguiars customer service issue, the spray bottles are a seperate item and I'm sure if you called Meguiars customer service they would send you a new sprayer.

Hot Spot
Aug 20th, 2005, 09:16 PM
Hi Chad,
Thanks again for placing your first order with us. We take great pride in our customer service and we want to make sure you are completely satisfied with every product you purchase from us. If you have received a defective Meguiar's foaming sprayer it is not our intent to stick you with it. The foaming sprayer you received must have been a rare defect as we have never had a problem with any of these products. As I mentioned when you called me, a quick call to Meguiar's customer service with the phone number I provided will get you a fast replacement for the defective item. I want to personally make sure you get a foaming sprayer that works properly for you as I understand how frustrating it can be when something does not work right. If you are uncomfortable calling Meguiar's and would like to go direcly through us please contact me first thing Monday morning and I will take good care of you and get a new replacement sprayer shipped out to you right away. Our 32 oz. samplers are concentrates and we make them available so you can try the product without having to purchase a large amount. If you would like to try one or two of the samplers we will extend free shipping to you on your order as a customer service courtesy because of the foaming sprayer problem.

00GREENMACHINE
Aug 20th, 2005, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by Hot Spot
Hi Chad,
Thanks again for placing your first order with us. We take great pride in our customer service and we want to make sure you are completely satisfied with every product you purchase from us. If you have received a defective Meguiar's foaming sprayer it is not our intent to stick you with it. The foaming sprayer you received must have been a rare defect as we have never had a problem with any of these products. As I mentioned when you called me, a quick call to Meguiar's customer service with the phone number I provided will get you a fast replacement for the defective item. I want to personally make sure you get a foaming sprayer that works properly for you as I understand how frustrating it can be when something does not work right. If you are uncomfortable calling Meguiar's and would like to go direcly through us please contact me first thing Monday morning and I will take good care of you and get a new replacement sprayer shipped out to you right away. Our 32 oz. samplers are concentrates and we make them available so you can try the product without having to purchase a large amount. If you would like to try one or two of the samplers we will extend free shipping to you on your order as a customer service courtesy because of the foaming sprayer problem.


Thanks I appreciate it. :xyxthumbs
I know stuff happens but I guess I was caught off guard or something. Honestly I dont know if its the bottle or the neck of the sprayer. I have some smaller 16oz bottles at home and I am sure the neck is the same size. I will try it out later today. I really did not notice how big the 32oz was until I put it next to the smaller ones i have been using. I will proabbly order the hyperdressing 32oz.

Thanks again Rick

emaxxman
Apr 22nd, 2006, 06:47 PM
I've been using the Hot Shine liquid spray. While it's been much better than most other products I've tried, I'm not satisfied with it. After a single rain, it loses its shine. The tires are still a nice black but are a matte black. If I get caught in the rain driving, the stuff completely washes off.

Does the Hyper Dressing stay shiny after a hard rain?

Also, is it a water based dressing...I didn't see anything that states whether it is or not...I guess since it's water dilutable, then it is water based?

Will it dry out tires or interior surfaces? I've been using the Quick Interior Detailer but would like something with some UV protection and more shine. I was going to try NXT interior protectant but would rather use the HD if it has UV protection (to minimize # of products and bottles.)